Pedants on the EDF

[Ladymuck]

dita-on-tees Wrote:

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> ah well least you haven't had 100 driving lessons

> plus, and still no bloody license...

Sorry sweetie...I just CANNOT resist this...but I think it's licence! Please forgive me...the temptation is TOO great. You know I love you really!:))

[dita-on-tees]

Regardless... its probably gardens. I believe he has more than one.

[huncamunca]

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[Ladymuck]

PS: I may not have had 100 driving lessons, but hubby did end up with bruising to his right arm and a ripped thumb fingernail when teaching me!:-$ And I still cannot park in small spaces...actually...I can't park in massive spaces either! Much prefer bikes! Keep at it sweetie...you'll be bloomin brilliant when you do pass.

[Ladymuck]

Hmmmm...I remain none the wiser on Charlie's Garden(s) :-S

Someone must know this.

[dita-on-tees]

Ladymuck Wrote:

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> dita-on-tees Wrote:

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> > ah well least you haven't had 100 driving

> lessons

> > plus, and still no bloody license...

>

> ha ha ha ha I am such a moron! (oh and the "regardless" was a crossed posted not a dismissal!)

> Sorry sweetie...I just CANNOT resist this...but I

> think it's licence! Please forgive me...the

> temptation is TOO great. You know I love you

> really!:))

[DJKillaQueen]

I just CANNOT resist this...but I think it's licence!

Err license is how Americans English spells it. Licence is Queen's English. Both spellings are therefore correct.

[DJKillaQueen]

100 driving lessons Dita? What did you find so impossibly hard to get your head around in a car?

[Ladymuck]

No you're not...far from it (and I mean that)...I was just being an irritating pedant...(but it was meant in good humour - honest xxx)

And still no-one has come back with an answer to my great dilemma. Maybe the forum's pedants aren't so clever after all - when put to the test?

[louisiana]

dita-on-tees Wrote:

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> Ladymuck Wrote:

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> > Well Dita, I failed my English Language O Level

> > four times before I eventually passed. In fact

> I

> > obtained all of my qualifications (bar French O

> > Level) whilst attending evening classes/working

> > full time:-$ as I left school at 16. Still as

> > thick as 3 planks:-S.

>

>

> ah well least you haven't had 100 driving lessons

> plus, and still no bloody license...

Licence - noun British English

License - noun US English

License - verb British English

[Ladymuck]

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> Err license is how Americans English spells it.

> Licence is Queen's English. Both spellings are

> therefore correct.

I thought L with an "s" referred to the verb whilst L with a "c" referred to the noun. No? Have I been using incorrect spelling all this time?:-S

*scratches pea-brain*

[DJKillaQueen]

Louisiana explains it better above.

[dita-on-tees]

Roundabouts. Get me everytime. I am a great parker, 3 point turner etc. drive me to a roundabout and I lose it completely.

License/licence/lysense I haven't got one no matter how I spell it. Boooooo.

[Ladymuck]

Yes, but what about Charlie and his garden(s)?

[nashoi]

I'm sure I was taught that if a word ended in an s, which was preceded by a vowel, then there was no second s. Then I came to London and saw St James's everywhere. Strictly speaking they can both be correct though can't they? The apostrophe is either replacing the e of the possessive es of old english or both the e and the s.

[Ladymuck]

dita-on-tees Wrote:

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> I am a great

> parker...

What I would give to be able to park a car in less than 6 manoeuvres (now there's a word - always have to think about that one).

[Ladymuck]

nashoi Wrote:

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The apostrophe

> is either replacing the e of the possessive es of

> old english or both the e and the s.

*pea-brain goes into melt-down*

[louisiana]

Ladymuck Wrote:

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> Actually, whilst on the subject of grammar could I

> pick the brains of some of you.

>

> I have a problem with apostrophes in this

> situation:

>

> Prince Charles' garden.

>

> Is that correct? Or should there be a second "s"?

> I.e. Prince Charles's garden. The internet is

> split on this. I always feel there should be a

> second "s", but think it looks odd and therefore

> tend to omit it.

>

Prince Charles' garden is always correct.

Some publications - such as The Currant Bun - may, however, regard this form as affected and unnecessarily challenging for their readers. You'll find out more in the style guide, if the publication has one; this will invariably include instructions on dealing with proper nouns. Essentially it has become a matter of house style.

The main issue is consistency. You should not use one form in the body and the other in the headline, as I have just spotted in one publication, or both forms in the same publication.

[computedshorty]

Using Cockney Rhyming Slang

Some publications - such as The Currant Bun "SUN"

Many examples are based on places in London and could be meaningless to people unfamiliar with the capital,

e.g. "Peckham Rye", meaning "Tie" (as in necktie), which dates from the late 19th century;

[Ladymuck]

louisiana Wrote:

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> Prince Charles' garden is always correct.

You have no idea just how relieved I am to hear that!

> Some publications - such as The Currant Bun - may,

> however, regard this form as affected and

> unnecessarily challenging for their readers.

> You'll find out more in the style guide, if the

> publication has one; this will invariably include

> instructions on dealing with proper noun

> possessives. Essentially it has become a matter of

> house style.

>

> The main issue is consistency. You should not use

> one form in the body and the other in the

> headline, as I have just spotted in one

> publication, or both forms in the same

> publication.

Thanks Louisiana.

So what about Nashoi's mention of St. James's Park then? Is that, by implication, incorrect? Or is it permissible albeit a bit odd? Moreover, would you utilise the extra "s"?

[louisiana]

My rule is to use what people themselves want to be called, unless this is overruled by the house style (but I would fight a house style that sought to deviate from accepted forms).

The Royal Parks themselves use the form St James's Park, so I would too.

[Ladymuck]

Interesting.

So, to summarise:

it is always correct to write Prince Charles' Garden(s) unless Charlie himself (or his staff) refer/s to his garden(s) as Prince Charles's. Even I can understand that! You've made my day Louisiana. Thank you so much.

Now, back to pedants on the EDF...funny how they've kept away from this thread - well, apart from the incorrigible Narnia!:))

[Narnia]

Licence - noun British English

License - noun US English

License - verb British English

Just drive the feckin ting - instructions Irish anti pedant

[woofmarkthedog]

Cate is my favorite pedant on the forum

She makes me laugh & give in, just for a quite life really

W**F

[peckhamboy]

Surely you mean quiet?