Lordship lane closed off just now (Monday 25th Oct 08:03AM)

[SCSB79]

Traffic accident of some sort. Closed off near heber and police station. Traffic is a mess. No buses going anywhere.

[dubluke]

Heard on the radio that there was an accident on Pellatt Road which meant they also had to cordon off part of Lordship Lane for some reason

[ImpetuousVrouw]

They are diverted down the top of Barry Road.

There was some kind of accident on Lordship Lane apparently.

[ImpetuousVrouw]

Actually they are going all the way down Barry Road and back to Goose Green on East Dulwich Road.

[Sonners]

My husband walked past and saw a cyclist and an elderly person lying in the road but it wasn't clear what had happened. I hope they are both okay. They were being attended to so fingers crossed things aren't as bad as they looked.

[ImpetuousVrouw]

It was still closed off at 8:30pm. I. Hope all involved in the accident are ok.

[KalamityKel]

IV the evening closure was a different incident

[ImpetuousVrouw]

Thanks, I thought it must have been really serious if it had been closed all day. Not sure if 2 more minor accidents are much better though really for the people involved.

[tfwsoll]

I am afraid the evening one wasn't a minor accident. A pedestrian was knocked down crossing Lordship Lane by Heber Road around 8.30 last night. It looked serious as he bounced off the car windscreen and had a serious head injury. The police were there until gone midnight investigating the scene of the accident and I am just praying that this doesn't mean that the pedestrian died.

[ImpetuousVrouw]

That's awful. I get really angry about how dangerous cars can be and whenever any curbs are put on people's 'freedom' to drive, motorists are up in arms. Cars, lorries etc are lethal weapons and there should be a rethink about whose rights are more important, the driver's, or the rights of other inhabitants of the planet!

[Pearson]

Not good news.

Isn't there a pedestrian crossing there?

[KalamityKel]

Quite often people will not use pedestrian crossing as it's not where they want to cross...

[Penguin68]

I get really angry about how dangerous cars can be and whenever any curbs are put on people's 'freedom' to drive, motorists are up in arms. Cars, lorries etc are lethal weapons and there should be a rethink about whose rights are more important, the driver's, or the rights of other inhabitants of the planet!

It is obviously true that half a ton and more of metal, driven at any speed, can be a 'lethal' weapon - however it is also true that not all accidents are caused by drivers - I have no idea what was the proximate cause of this accident, neither, I would guess, does the original writer. In fact drivers' rights are actually no more nor any less than those of 'other inhabitants of the planet'. Care needs to be taken by drivers, as it does by any road user, which includes pedestrians using roads. I learned (and have tried to teach to my children) the concept of 'defensive driving' which, broadly, assumes that the other bloke is an idiot and will cause an accident, so drive with that in mind and don't assume that all road users will act rationally and sensibly. From that also stems the concept of defensive walking, defensive pedalling and so on - that is, treat roads as dangerous places and take care. The same principle applies to fell-walking, mountaineering, kyaking and so on - bad things can happen, so be wary.

There are huge advantages to individuals and society in motorised transport - 'turning the clock back' and posts which imply this would be good are simply disengenuous. Read old reports of accidents with horses and horse drawn transport - look at how societies which relied on people power alone for transport and carriage fared against those who didn't.

We have to live with drivers and cars. We have to accept that some of these will not be as careful as others, however much we may deplore this and rightly want these motorists properly punished for transgressions. We may have to design roads to make them safer and obviate the excesses of the poor and careless driver, but moaning about the car and the driver as a entire class is a dreadful waste of time.

[Mick Mac]

Having said all that I used to live on Heber Road and its a dangerous junction with Lordship Lane as cars coming round the corner and up the hill often do so at speed, especially at night.

[HennyPenny]

It's not the main roads like Lordship Lane where you take your life in your hands when you cross the road - We are on Fellbrigg Road which is MAX 20 mile an hour - it is signed, though these are slightly obscured by 'street clutter' ie trees and lamp posts - and cars go down clearly 30/40 miles an hour. There are roads where the speed restrictions are white painted onto the tarmac - are these proven to be 'obeyed' more? Certainly the end of '20' luminous sign from Fellbrigg onto Whately isn't very clear during the day and there isn't anything from Northcross Road into Fellbrigg, or is it only signed where the speed restrictions come into effect? Perhaps JB could get some nice policeman to come with a speed camera and catch a few speeding drivers, invariably a mobile phone is being used as well...HP

[ratty]

As a driver I am always concious that I am driving half a ton of metal that is potentially more lethal than a bullet. All drivers should do the same!

[dimples]

does anyone know if the casualties are ok ?

[tfwsoll]

I have to say that I don't cross at the crossing when I get off the bus at night and have seen people dart in front of cars so it's not just the motorists' fault. Mind you, people do drive like maniacs up and down the road sometimes - including bus drivers.

I would like to know happened to the casualty. My husband and I were really upset as we imagined the guy's partner/family at home wondering where he was.