Dogs being nicked from outside Sainsbury East Dulwich

[PeckhamRose]

Just met a couple who both work at Sainsburys East Dulwich. Dog Kennel Hill. As well as a recent post she told me a poodle was stolen the same day, and a Weimaraner was stolen a week or so ago. Clearly an easy target. Let's not always blame the owners? Let's blame the people that steal shall we? Also be aware when we go there.

[Earl Aelfheah]

I would have thought there'd be CCTV in front of Sainsbury's

[geobz]

PeckhamRose, the times have changed. Would you leave your kid outside of sainsbury like your dog? No.

Its simple, don't leave your dog alone, or live with the fear and risk of getting it stolen.

[PeckhamRose]

Okkkkay so we're back to blaming the victim.

[edcam]

Stealing someone's dog is a pretty evil thing to do. I don't understand though why you'd leave one tied up outside a shop though.

[DulwichFox]

PeckhamRose Wrote:

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> Okkkkay so we're back to blaming the victim.

It is not a Question of blaming the victim... Leaving your pet tied up outside a shop cruel.

Dogs get very distressed when left like that and doing so shows a total disreguard of your pet's welfare.

The Dog may appear abandoned.. A child might try and stroke the distressed dog and get bitten.

This practise needs to be made illegal and the owner fined..

DulwichFox

[geobz]

Am not blaming any victims, that person that left the dog like that in 2017 is no victim... is a fool person. Its like saying oh why are you blaming a man that his house got robbed while he left his front door wide open... There is no victim here, just a fool person.

[Mystic Mog]

Dog Theft Awareness Day. 14th March.

[taper]

Give me bloody strength.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Its been reunited apparently. Stand down.

[taper]

That's good news.

[peckham_ryu]

DulwichFox Wrote:

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>

> Leaving your pet tied up outside a shop cruel.

> Dogs get very distressed when left like that and

> doing so shows a total disreguard of your pet's

> welfare.

Some dogs may become distressed, but not all. And the ones that do are equally likely to be distressed if you leave them home alone. Whereas bringing the hound with you to the shops is healthy for both owner and Fido. Sorry DF but you're over-generalising, and many dogs will contentedly wait for their owner when told to do so.

> A child might try and stroke the distressed dog and get bitten.

> This practise needs to be made illegal and the owner fined.

Dogs biting people IS illegal. The owner can be fined, among other consequences. If the dog might bite, the owner is responsible for keeping it under control and if necessary muzzling it. It's equally perfectly fine for the owner of a sedate, tame Labrador or somesuch to judge that the dog will behave itself if left leashed outside the shops. No need to go all Big Brother and make up unnecessary rules to deal with the 1% of idiots who are liable to let their packs of attack dogs roam rampant.

[Nigello]

Dogs outside Gail's in the Village, tied up to shiver and yelp and yap whilst "mummy" is warm and cosy inside, are a perennial pain. I don't think dogs should be left tied up anywhere where the owner can't keep an eye on it: just organise your life to not have to take your pet with you everywhere.

I hope dogs and owners are reconciled because losing a pet is not nice at all.

[Zelig]

Irresponsible selfish dog owners. Completely their fault. Agree with Dulwich Fox, Nigello and Geobz. We do not live in a crime free world. Take responsibility. Simple. Happens a lot now outside M&S unfortunatley-dog tying.

[charlie.gl]

For those of you blaming dog owners, would you be supportive of dogs coming into food shops & cafes? It's better to take a dog out and keep it exercised, and occasionally that means a dog will have to wait where society doesn't allow dogs indoors. It's not cruel to leave a dog outside for a few minutes while you do your shopping (weather permitting).

[edcam]

Well behaved dogs in food shops and cafes shouldn't be a problem.

[Zelig]

No. No need to take the dog anywhere other than for exercise which means no shops or cafes or tying it up. Take responsibility for your dog and kids. Simple. Organise your life and stop imposing on others.

charlie.gl Wrote:

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> For those of you blaming dog owners, would you be

> supportive of dogs coming into food shops & cafes?

> It's better to take a dog out and keep it

> exercised, and occasionally that means a dog will

> have to wait where society doesn't allow dogs

> indoors. It's not cruel to leave a dog outside for

> a few minutes while you do your shopping (weather

> permitting).

[boosboss]

Zelig Wrote:

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> No. No need to take the dog anywhere other than

> for exercise which means no shops or cafes or

> tying it up. Take responsibility for your dog and

> kids. Simple. Organise your life and stop imposing

> on others.

>

No!

[ali2007]

seriously. how many of you are dog owners/lovers on this thread.

think about this...

I take my dog for a walk in the park. On the way back, I realise I need some milk. I tie the dog up outside the shop as I HAVE NO OPTION TO TAKE THE DOG IN. The dog gets stolen. Then it would be MY fault for leaving my dog outside for 5mins?

I would love to take my dog in but so many shops are hostile. I tried to take her into the Post Office and was told to leave her outside (btw there is nowhere to tie your dog up outside unless you want them to get run over by a bus) so I had to leave. So instead of taking my dog out on fun jaunts these days, she has to sit at home bored as hell. Something's not right.

More dog love please.

[singalto]

Is it impossible for someone to start a new thread without it turning nasty? Yesterday's dog owner was reunited with his/ her dog but what about the other two?

[Jenny1]

All my life (51 years) dogs have been tied up outside shops to wait for their owners.

This is normal.

[Jenny1]

... I also have reason to believe that this was common practice prior to my birth.

[Angelina]

Dogs in food shops/ restaurants? No thank you.

There's nothing wrong with leaving dogs outside, briefly. Although you would think people would realise the stress a busy street would cause a dog.

It is shocking though that people will just untether your dog and walk off with it.

Just as it is people grabbing your phone, robbing your houses, slashing your tyres....

There's a very serious pattern of bad behaviour in ED so it would just be wise to not provide an opportunity.

It's very very stupid to do so, knowing the pattern of behaviour locally.

[Stephieee]

Nobody "needs" to go to a cafe at all. It's really no different to someone sitting in a cafe reading a book, listening to music, or chatting with friends. To suggest that a dog owner should only take their dog out the house to exercise it is complete nonsense. I have a dog because I enjoy spending my leisure time with her and so I do take her most places I go. She doesn't cause any ill effect on anyone.

[rendelharris]

I've never really understood the rationale for keeping (well behaved) dogs out of caf?s - my family have always had dogs wandering in and out of the kitchen and nobody's ever suffered any ill effects from them, and in pubs it's usually delightful to see how most people love having a dog around and make a fuss of it. I don't think it's victim blaming though to say I'd never leave a dog tied up outside a shop round here, any more than I'd leave an unattended small child, there are just too many odd characters about who might set it loose, walk away with it etc.