Stupid copy-protected CDs

[katie1997]

Emerson Crane Wrote:

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> david_carnell Wrote:

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> > If anyone wonders why ???? has left the forum

> you

> > only need to read this thread.

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> > Jay-sus.

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> Well yes, but everyone is entitled to their

> opinion, no matter how weird and wonderful. And

> lets be honest this Forum is no differnt from many

> others nor do the views posted on here differ

> wildly from those espoused by many of the

> populace. Just saying like.

I agree with you David.

This thread and the BBC horizon one are perfect examples of this. Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion and its a public forum blah blah but its gets really tiresome when an opinion/argument is posted ad nauseum on absolutely everything. Don't even mention the poor old Drawing room. Just saying like.

The 'hide' function is good but by its very nature, distorts the conversation flow on a thread.

[Emerson Crane]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> Emerson Crane Wrote:

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> > david_carnell Wrote:

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> > > If anyone wonders why ???? has left the forum

> > you

> > > only need to read this thread.

> > >

> > > Jay-sus.

> >

> >

> > Well yes, but everyone is entitled to their

> > opinion, no matter how weird and wonderful. And

> > lets be honest this Forum is no differnt from

> many

> > others nor do the views posted on here differ

> > wildly from those espoused by many of the

> > populace. Just saying like.

>

>

> Ah, the old "freedom of speech" argument. Because

> until you mentioned it EC, I'd been advocating

> cellotaping mouths closed and typing fingers were

> to be amputated.

>

> But you know what, with that freedom comes a

> responsibility. Not to act like a nark at every

> opportunity or not to turn a fairly innocent

> thread/request into a running ideological battle

> and insult-fest for example. But there are lots of

> others.

>

> If that's what you enjoy reading then I'll leave

> you and all the other masochists to it, but for

> me, it's a perfect example of the current malaise

> infecting the local populous.

Because

> until you mentioned it EC, I'd been advocating

> cellotaping mouths closed and typing fingers were

> to be amputated.

I've not for a moment suggested that you had advocated anything of the sort have 1? Nor have I entered into a slanging match with anyone on this particular thread. And I've not said I enjoy reading such comments. *sigh* Why is that when someone, no matter who, puts foward a point of view that doesn't square with the views of other posters, you'll always get a response like this. Are you sure its not posts like yours which have contributed to ????'s buggering off? Talk about overly sensitive. Jeez.

[daizie]

FIND OUT what friends think of you by opening an email account in another friend's name & emailing them all, slagging you off.

[*Bob*]

Nobody likes to get ripped-off, but I honestly believe the only way to make a living out of music is to is to accept those certain realities which will never change (not for the better anyway), turn any benefits to your advantage - and try not to get so angry about the unfairness of it all that you end-up not being able to string a guitar without wanting to take a can of kerosene and a match to every man, woman and child who owns an iPod.

Which would you prefer: losing 100,000 units to piracy whilst selling 20,000 legitimately - plus achieving some radio play and packing your gigs out?

or

Losing no units to piracy, selling 200, getting no airplay and playing week-in, week-out to a dwindling selection of friends until your audience consists of just you, your girlfriend and the landlord?

An exaggeration clearly, but one to illustrate a valid point.

[*Bob*]

Anyway, I thought these sorts of threads were the reason people tuned-in, not tuned-out?!

[Emerson Crane]

katie1997 Wrote:

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> Emerson Crane Wrote:

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> > david_carnell Wrote:

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> > -----

> > > If anyone wonders why ???? has left the forum

> > you

> > > only need to read this thread.

> > >

> > > Jay-sus.

> >

> >

> > Well yes, but everyone is entitled to their

> > opinion, no matter how weird and wonderful. And

> > lets be honest this Forum is no differnt from

> many

> > others nor do the views posted on here differ

> > wildly from those espoused by many of the

> > populace. Just saying like.

>

> I agree with you David.

>

> This thread and the BBC horizon one are perfect

> examples of this. Yes, everyone is entitled to

> their opinion and its a public forum blah blah but

> its gets really tiresome when an opinion/argument

> is posted ad nauseum on absolutely everything.

> Don't even mention the poor old Drawing room.

> Just saying like.

>

> The 'hide' function is good but by its very

> nature, distorts the conversation flow on a

> thread.

FFS do me a favour, I can see why ????'s is pissed off.

[Kingy]

Well Bob that is an exaggeration, the audience consists of just me and the landlord - but did she burn the c.d. ? (cue theme from Dragnet)

[david_carnell]

If you say so Bob.

[*Bob*]

That's my take on things, DC. What's your advice?

[daizie]

DON'T waste money on expensive ipods. Simply think of your favourite tune and hum it. If you want to "switch tracks", simply think of another song you like and hum that instead

[Kingy]

i tried that but it was COPY PROTECTED

[david_carnell]

I was referring to this:

Anyway, I thought these sorts of threads were the reason people tuned-in, not tuned-out?!

Your sage pearls on the grubbiness of the music/tv industry are always welcome. In fact, you might just have rescued this thread.

[RosieH]

Hey DC, rescued this thread from what, motherfucker?

Heh, and to think I just wanted to listen to Diana Dors to cheer me up on my way into work. That'll learn me.

[*Bob*]

Anything I have to offer on these subjects should of course come with the caveat that I am nothing but a jaded old hack who'll do anything to scrape-up a few coppers from the barrel of piss that is 'the music biz'.

[daizie]

Convince people you are the rock star Jay Kay by always wearing a large hat.

[citizenED]

Rosie H, the world is still full of nice and decent people. One swallow does not a summer make.

Problem with copyright is that there is a massice grey area in the middle of two seemigly absolute views. Be nice if spats in the grey area were conducted with degnity.

[Kingy]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Might be a good time and place to plug your latest

> CD though, Kingy - don't let this marketing

> opportunity slip away.

Well I would but I'm in the process of mastering it into British Telecom's 1970's Dial-A-Disc format for optimum sound quality

[*Bob*]

I don't mind saying.. I had to google that one.

Ah yes.. (NB - there now follows a joke for less than four people).. '

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[SeanMacGabhann]

I though the dial-a-disc reference was a simple dig at MP3 format (which was the real reason behind Kingy's indignation about the original request I suspect)

[SeanMacGabhann]

on the subject of sound quality, anyone interested enough in the subject should find

Perfecting Sound Forever

a pretty good read.

[louisiana]

I do love to see the record companies abiding by the law and regulations on copyright. Not.

'Major Record Labels Forced to Pay $45M USD for Pirating Music'

http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=20632

[Kingy]

Back in the late '60's a friend of mine wrote a tune on an album, it later appeared in the movie The Gum Ball Rally, he never got paid, more recently, a few years ago they were playing the tune on the system at The Gowlett, I had a cd of the original album in the car outside at that time. the tune they were playing in the Gowlett was by 'The Thievery Corporation' and merely contained a very large sample of the track in question - later this tune was used on as the music to the BBC's Real Hustle programme (along with several others) but the BBC paid The Thievery Corporation ! the orignal writer still hasn't been paid for any of the above - make of it what you will

[Ted Max]

Kingy isn't going to be happy...

One of these proposals will address limited private copying. As things stand, 90 percent of the country is ? mostly unwittingly ? breaking the law by ripping music files from CDs and copying them to devices such as the iPod. The government said in its response that this situation "brings the law into disrepute".

"It is not appropriate simply to tolerate unlawful private copying where it is not commercially damaging," the government said. It will now not only legalise limited private copying, but also block any attempts in licensing contracts to undermine this new exception.

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/intellectual-property/2011/08/03/uk-copyright-system-set-for-massive-overhaul-40093599/

[RosieH]

WOOHOO!

Can I get a HELL YEAH!

etc

I'm gonna go home and put some CDs on itunes to celebrate. Kingy, care to join me?

[DJKillaQueen]

lol....I think it's sensible. You buy the song, you should be able to put it on any platform you choose.