Mugging on Crystal Palace Road on Tuesday 22nd

[jeanne]

Following on from previous mugging post, my daughter was mugged by a hoodie and her iphone was snatched from her hand whilst she was talking, by a youngster age around 15 at 10.30pm last Tuesday. This occurrence is obviously become more frequent and we should all take care.

[anatwins]

or dont let your kids out that late!!!

[spotify]

Sorry to hear that jeanne my feelings are that people should be allowed out after dark and be safe.

I don't suppose there is a description of the hooded thief or you would have written it up.

[ontheedge]

She doesn't say how old daughter is people do have adult children. Anyway it's half term so no reason why shouldn't be out

[spotify]

Quite so ontheedge.

I didn't realise that it was an offence for people to be on the street goading potential muggers especially after dark.

[elderflower]

I think waving ?800 of phone around after dark has long been understood to be a beacon for muggers.

How does an item of clothing mug someone? I appreciate it may seem insensitive to be concerned about the hoodie but it makes me wonder that people are pigeonholed together by an item of clothing. I'm middle aged and middle class but I love a good hoodie as it keeps the rain and the cold out. Should I not wear them for fear of generalisations and negative associations.

[cab]

I am the person who was mugged on Glengarry Road. I think people shouldn't be so daft as to be talking on their phone when walking around at night on their own, sorry. But I was mugged despite being wary, with my bag tightly close to my body over my shoulder and keys out ready to get into my house safe. Whoever it is was determined to steal my bag anyway, wrestling me to the ground and breaking the bag's strap to get it off me. I think people see anyone as a target, not just someone with valuables on display.

[Keef]

anatwins Wrote:

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> or dont let your kids out that late!!!

This is a joke, right?

[Pearson]

I'm confused, it would appear that there was no mugging on Crystal Palace Road?

There are two threads on what i gather is the same mugging...

[Narnia]

Pearson, Glengarry victim is giving an opinion on the CP Rd mugging.

[Jeremy]

I do have sympathy for the OP's daughter, having made a similar mistake myself a few years ago. But it's really not a good idea to walk around talking on your phone - especially if it's worth several hundred pounds, and you're on your own at night.

[Pearson]

Thanks Narnia.

[JohnL]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> I do have sympathy for the OP's daughter, having

> made a similar mistake myself a few years ago. But

> it's really not a good idea to walk around talking

> on your phone - especially if it's worth several

> hundred pounds, and you're on your own at night.

So we all now need two phones - cheap one for talking on in public and our iPhone for functionality at home.

My elderly mother has an iPhone but no contract - it never leaves the house :)

[JohnL]

anatwins Wrote:

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> or dont let your kids out that late!!!

yep - cause its the kids that do the muggings predominantly - as described by the OP

[Jeremy]

JohnL Wrote:

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> So we all now need two phones - cheap one for talking

> on in public and our iPhone for functionality at home.

No, I would suggest not talking on your phone when you're on your own, in a quiet road, in the middle of the night.

If for some reason you feel that this is too restrictive, then I would suggest getting a cheap phone, and using your computer at home for browsing the internet and playing games.

At the end of the day, this is London, and everybody should take sensible precautions.

[Sharon_H]

Sorry to hear what happened to your daughter Jeanne, hope that she is ok.

Some of the comments are laughable.

[????]

Unless you go out in barefoot, rags and with a couple of baked bean cans on a string ITS AT LEAST PARTLY YOUR FAULT.....APPARENTLY

Scummy lowlifes can really effect peoples lives in a horrible way for what for them is nothing and yet people somehow try and somehow deflect some of the blame on the victims.....unbelievable, wet liberal tosh...

[legalbeagle]

This is not a laughing matter, but ???? you did just make me laugh. Of COURSE we can/should all be careful sensible etc etc but these things do happen. I will continue to walk around ED and answer my phone if I really want to. There are limits to what we can do before we become hermits! Sorry to hear this has happened but it's silly to blame the victim for answering the phone or the parent for not chaining kid to the bedroom!

[Jeremy]

????, wasn't trying to deflect the blame at all... of course it wasn't the victim's fault and I do have a lot of sympathy. It's a horrible thing to happen. But you have to be realistic, accept that these scumbags exist, and do what you can to minimise the risk to yourself and your property.

It was meant as constructive advice, if you want to twist it into "wet liberal tosh" then that's your problem.

[jeanne]

She is 26!!

[pinkhalf]

It's awful to be mugged and how nasty for the OP's daughter but sometimes you do have to wonder at the behaviour of people in ED so I partly agree with Jeremy.

The other night on the way home, 11.30, I managed to see a chap on his iPhone, nice suit, standing in the middle of the road talking very loudly. If he had been mugged I would have not been surprised because he was advertising himself and his presence to all and sundry.

London has become very gentrified over the years but it is really worth remembering a bit of street sense sometimes.

[EDOliver]

Another important thread decending into a slanging match, can we not accept that people have different opinions and learn to bite our lips??

Unfortunately the lovely ED is down the road from some rather dodgy areas which harbour some VERY dodgy people so thefts/robberies of this nature will happen.

Can we have a description of suspect please so I can be on the lookout - I use CP Road on a daily basis so would like to know.

Ta

[Huggers]

do the dodgy people have to come from outside of ED? I'm across the track in Peckham and we are getting a bit fed up with being denigrated in this way. We have lovely people around our way and a fervent neighbourhood watch.

Mugging is pretty opportunist and your crims most likely going along that way because its their locality and seeing their victim rather than hiking from over here. Complacency about 'lovely ED' makes you more vulnerable. There are a couple of roads in ED coming up again and again in these mugging threads and its naive to think the muggers are not from round there!

[Jeremy]

It's all South London. Peckham, Dulwich, Camberwell, Sydenham, etc, all have nice bits and not-so-nice bits. And even in the nice bits, you'll always find people up to no good. The postcode borders are irrelevant to this discussion.

[camberwell70]

So where are these rather dodgy areas, let me see - Camberwell, Peckham, Nunhead, New Cross, Brockley, Forest hill, Sydenham, Tulse Hill, Brixton, Brockley, Lewisham, Kennington, Clapham, Norwood, Herne Hill, Walworth, Elephant and Castle, Waterloo, Catford...............

looks like you are on your own ED, be careful out there...oh, and keep em peeled