Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 http://www.camberwellonline.co.ukFollow the links on Camberwell Online for the details of a proposed end to the DH LB service.There is an online petition and there will be opportunities to sign a petition at Denny Hill next week.Loss of this service would be a disaster for the wider area.Please support the campaign to prevent its closure. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckhamboy Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Would this mean they can have more services from ED? If so, where's the petition in favour? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45958 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 No. It would mean that we'd be piling down the hill to get on your trains though... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 bad news - get writing to your MPs people! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45969 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckhamboy Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Takes too long - why don't we just barricade Dog Kennel Hill with bugaboos so the Camberwellians can't get to the station? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45972 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mockney piers Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Didn't we have another thread on this that had a couple of answers (ie it's not necessarily planned to be permanent or something)My blood sugar is plummeting and I'm going a bit odd, so can't be bothered to look until I've had some food Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45976 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Because Peckhamboy that would cut off ED's buses and remove their link to the West End.Please sign the petition for all of our sakes... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
snorky Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 BUT WHAT WILL IT DO TO HOUSE PRICES ? WHAT WILL IT DO TO OUR EQUITY ???????????? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45984 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Exactly my concern. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45986 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostThePlot Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Alan,Even though my commute involves walking upstairs to my office, I can assure you this will have my full support. Can't let this sort of thing affect those who actually need the service to get to and from work. Eric Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-45992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks Eric. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Is this part of the government's latest scheme to get people out of their cars and onto public transport?! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46010 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Siduhe Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 There's more info here on a previous thread by Eileen. One thing I read yesterday is that the East London Spur line (phase 2 of the extension, which would link Denmark Hill to Clapham) is also unlikely to proceed now that Crossrail has been approved, because there isn't enough money to pay for both. Not good, if true.http://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/forum/read.php?5,49620,49620#msg-49620 Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46016 Share on other sites More sharing options...
katgod Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 East Dulwichites beware - the reason some of your journeys are more pleasant is because lots of Peckham Rye users are able to get on the soon to be axed DH loop trains, and so are not trying to ram into the ED train with you. Seems to me that without those DH loop line yrains Prye will becoame a no go area, it is really tough trying to get on the trains that come via ED as it is, but without the DH loop trains it will be even worse for everyone whether Edites squashed by the Ryers or Ryers who can't get on.And if you only just miss a bus at LB at night - by say a minute or two it is generally quicker to get the 40 from outside LB or any bus to Elephant and change than to wait and get the next train. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
peckhamboy Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 true, but if you miss it by more than 5 minutes, it's normally quicker to wait because the buses are so infrequent and take so long to get down the walworth road Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46056 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quaywe Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Full credit here must go to Cllr Fiona Colley for leading this campaign, however I couldn't see an online petition on her blog so I've created one myself for all to sign. I'll send all details to Fiona and Network Rail on 26 October.Click here to sign the petition!Closing date for comments: 26 October 2007RegardsEDKiwiPS - Admin any chance of 'promoting' the post for a few days so we get maximum visibility? Thanks. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46082 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks. That's really great. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46087 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Susan Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 The key place to target with this petition is King's College Hospital, this will have a hugh effect on staff, patients, visitors and students. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46101 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 A few points.Most campaigns sponsored by Ms Conn tend to be filled with skewed information and she's not terribly willing to hear otherwise. I simply advise those to be careful that the whole noise isn't based on half the story.Second, you must remember being 'urban' (particularly Camberwell) means trains aren't considered necessary transport. They are more for suburban users travelling long distances into urban London. Tfl sees urban areas sufficiently served by buses. That's the plan for Camberwell and to a degree, East Dulwich.I'm not supporting the plans and may even sign the petition. Just be careful. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46115 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 I am going to throw my piss sodden chips in the bin and start again.I don't care about arbitrary assignment of urban/suburban status. I do care about the train service.Please don't bring party politics and political rivalries into this. Please do support the retention of the Denmark Hill - London Bridge service. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 So Alan, London Bridge is oversubscribed. Only six tracks and they can't do more without destroying a lot of old buildings.So they have to prioritise. Somebody can't get in.Do we tell the people of Kent and suburbia they have to add to their hour long journey - or the people of Camberwell they have to take a bus that takes all of 25 minutes?Hell you can even walk to London Bridge from Camberwell. Cycling takes 10 minutes.Kent doesn't have that luxury.It's a real issue and the same NIMBY thinking. You want to keep your service, you have to take it away from those much farther out. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 The people of Kent can fight for extended services. The people of Camberwell, Peckham and East Dulwich can fight to retain their current services.If you want to get into Nimbyism then maybe we can trade our mental hospital and homeless drop in centres for reduced access to London Bridge.We certainly shouldn't give it up for nothing. As you have already noted we have lots of problems in this area. Reduced transport links would add to them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maurice Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Good luck. In four hours you've spread it across multiple websites and off to a good start with 21 signatures. Hope you win the fight. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46133 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Dale Posted October 10, 2007 Author Share Posted October 10, 2007 Thanks Mo. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46136 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ladyruskin Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 "Do we tell the people of Kent and suburbia they have to add to their hour long journey - or the people of Camberwell they have to take a bus that takes all of 25 minutes?" Have you ever actually got a bus along the Walworth Road at 8 in the morning? 25 mins is a total fantasy! And I am alone in not relishing a walk home from London Bridge on a dark, cold, rainy winter's evening via E&C? (?)Perhaps in this day and age the GLA should look to promoting establishing offices outside of Central London so that the poor souls from Kent didn't have to trek so far - Citibank have offices in Lewisham for instance IIRC, thus negating the need for any Kentites to access LB at all. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/1667-denmark-hill-to-london-bridge-closure/#findComment-46137 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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