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AnotherPaul Wrote:

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> These 'churches' are a joke. Just a load of shit

> singing, bad music and self righteous guff.

>

> They think being loud makes up for the made-upness

> of what they're doing.

>

> Can individuals issue cease and desist notices to

> churches?

>

> ap



if you want to go to HELL - then yes.

Perhaps we should ask god to sort this out for us. I?m not to sure where one addresses the letters of complaint though. The Vatican? Buckingham Palace? Mecca? Jerusalem? Salt Lake City? Penge?


Is there not a patron saint of annoying neighbours who could be asked to intercede?

oooh Brendan you just reminded me. The family home back in Ireland is 10 yards opposite a massive Catholic Church. Growing up I used to even ring the bell. Some years ago the old bell was replaced by an automated one and it is the loudest thing I have ever heard


The first time I went back for a visit after it was installed I couldn't believe how loud it was and for how long it went on. You're probably thinking "ok ok so a loud bell...." but seriously - this thing is ridiculous. No chance of sleeping through it

I was also an altar boy. I think the trauma of having to parade around in front of the entire town every Sunday wearing a dress (very camp business churching) put me right off ever being a regular churchgoer in my adult life.


Well that and the indoctrination, hypocrisy and conditional trade off of having to subscribe to a certain belief structure in order to explore human spirituality.

I was a Sunday morning cross dresser too... Started as "boat boy" (carried the little boat full of incense that the vicar put in to the thurible. I then got promoted to acolyte.


Then I did RS A Level, and learnt all about how corrupt the church has been throughout history, and how many people have died in it's name. I always remember wondering how my 2 teachers (one an Italian Catholic man, the other a very Church of England woman) could teach us all this, and still go every week, so I stopped.


Wouldn't go so far as to say I'd never set foot in a church though.

I've never been a regular church goer nor am I a believer but back in the mid-80s when I was living in Herne Hill there was an afro-caribbean pentecostal church at the end of my street where I lived. The sound of the music and the singing was loud and raucous, people were really singing their hearts out. On two or three occasions I actually ventured in and was always uplifted by the soul and the effort that the congregation put into their worship. It sounded wonderful to me.

AnotherPaul Wrote:

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> Sorry, going back a bit, It's not always Elton

> John.

>

> Sometimes it has been Whitney Houston which I can

> tell you was not funny.

>

> "and i-e-i will always love youeargh" at 4am in

> hackney. things get no worse than that, surely.


I believe Ms Houston started off her singing career in Gospel and, by the state of her now, we can perhaps take some grim satisfaction in the knowledge that it will catch up with them all in the end. I assume they will be a lot less noisy once their religious twitterings have been reduced to the plaintiff bleatings of a crack-house whore!

AnotherPaul Wrote:

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> Yes, I've heard that crack addiction tends to

> cause lapses in church choir attendance.

> Didn't the CIA try something like that in the

> 80's?


Probably. I know that they experimented extensively in the 1950s and 1960s with hallucinogenics (often on unsuspecting victims).

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