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That's nonsense James. The Nunhead and Peckham Rye SNT have been delivering crime prevention kits over the past months to residents of their patch.


So would anyone know how I find out if this is available for Lane ward? This makes it seem like all residents are equal but some are more equal than others - crime certainly isn't only apparent in SE22!!(Having been burgled last August)

James, suggest you STOP trying to score cheap political points. It's not the first time this has been brought to your attention, seems you don't learn from previous misdemeanours.


Can you also start using plain ENGLISH - i.e. What do you mean by "can be deterred or stopped by hardening homes".


How do you harden a home?

Apologies dbboy,

Hardening a home is about upgrading the locks, putting locks on windows, london and manchester bars on doors ie making it harder to break into a home.


Hi DJKillaQueen,

What's in the kits you've mentioned - please don't say Smartwater property marking as that has a short shelf life.


Hi catma,

I will find out about all local wards and what they offer and report back.

So I was correct that only East Dulwich ward locally has full property marker kits due to East Dulwich Lib Dem councillors over a number of years allocating roughly a fifth of all the money at our discretion to crime prevention measures.


DJKillaQueen, I'm sure the UV marker pens and leaflets help but quite the same as SelectaDNA property marking kits.

And yes I am political with this. Politics is about choices. I think local tory and Labour councillors over a number of years have made choices to NOT support crime prevention - soft on the causes of crime.


I'm more hopeful that if a further round of Cleaner, Greener, Safer funding should occur we'll persuade them to back crime prevention.

Just a shame that the Lib Dem Council failed on so many others things isn't it James.....like housing repairs, contracts, call centre. I think it's a disgrace that you use a thread about a burglary to play party politics.


SelectaDNA kits can easily be purchased by anyone. The best way to stop burglars is to make your home burglar proof...and that means the strongest locks, alarms and maybe even CCTV.

DJKillaQueen Wrote:

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> I think it's a disgrace that you use a thread about a burglary to play party politics.


Also agreed. James - your advice on the property marking kits is appreciated. But this thread really shouldn't be used to trumpet the acheivements of the Lib Dem council, or to get one up on the other parties.


However, DJKQ, please practise what you preach, and don't use this thread to air your grievances with the council.

Well I think you'll find the SNT describe what they are handing out as a crime prevention kits too James. Would you like me to send you the minutes of the ward panel meeting where these kits were announced? SelectaDNA is not the ONLY thing that helps prevent crime nor is it the only content that merits the title of a crime prevention kit.

DJKilla,

I think at this point its clear we disagree.


UV pens are largely to aid the return of stolen goods to the rightful owners unless stickers are placed on entrance doors etc. They cost ?1.49 per kit retail which reflects the relative merits compared to Selectadna which retails at ?55 per kit and is considered to provide much better evidence and thus much better deterence/crime prevention. I'm sure the leaflets are useful and lots more information on the web as well.


Please don't get me wrong. I think its great that the Peckham Rye ward SNT have these UV marker pens and are distributing them. I think its a shame they don't have the best product on the market and that they can't give that best product out for free. I'm chuffed to bits in East Dulwich we can.

James Barber Wrote:

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> Please don't get me wrong. I think its great that

> the Peckham Rye ward SNT have these UV marker pens

> and are distributing them. I think its a shame

> they don't have the best product on the market and

> that they can't give that best product out for

> free. I'm chuffed to bits in East Dulwich we can.


This post was meant to be informing of a robbery outside your constituency and nothing you've written has been helpful in the slightest to inhabitants of Ivanhoe road, which has had 8 robberies in the past month, making it a 'priority area' according to the police. If you want to wax lyrical about how great anti burglary provisions of ED are, can you do it on another post please.

Incidentally, we live just off the other end of Bellenden Road (Lyndhurst Way) and we were also burgled on the same night, via the patio doors at the back. Laptop, cameras, consoles and booze taken, as well a lot of very carefully selected 30th birthday gifts to my partner. Are fob watches and cufflinks big on the black market these days?
Apologies if they've posted this themselves on another thread but my friends who live on Oxonian Street were burgled on Monday night while they were asleep upstairs. The intruders crowbarred the living room window open at the front of the house (there is only a very short wall in front of it, so this was clearly visible from the road) and took two laptops, some speakers and my friend's car which was parked outside after finding his car keys.

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