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> You must have have had a silk Hammers scarf to

> wear like a tie or tied round your wrist too

> Maxxi? Cherry 8 hole DMs naturally, you daren't

> wear any with more holes or the Mile End skins

> would kick your arse (they might anyway)



oh yes - but only graduated to a pair of docs (8-hole oxblood) when I got my first pair of Skinners - remember them? Weird baggy jeans that, fashion demanded, you wore with a turn-up of 10 inches or more. I grew up in Coventry so my version of Mile End skins were the CCFC Boot Boys.

Do you know that Harrringtons have no shoulder seams and deep pockets because they were designed as a golfing jacket? The lack of shoulder seams means they move more freely during the swing.


Would skins and mods have known that they were being just so... middle class... when they wore them?



Or that when they wore Crombies with silk handkerchiefs they were being ex-military types? Or that the Pringle, Aquascutum, Burberry, Lyle and Scot etc. they wore as 'casuals' in the 80s or the Berghaus, Ralph Lauren and Barbour of today makes them a little sloaney?


On reflection I don't think Harringtons would have made them feel like class traitors.

Rubish - they were completley aware just carried it off with far more style.


Working class youth culture up until to the 1980s tended to:


Like to dress up (they wore overalls, tougher working clothes all week after all)

Always liked the preppy look

Readily and unironically borrowed from more tailored upper class looks formally - ie teddyboys in edwardian drapes or uinformally egsportswear - Fredperryetc


It's the middlecalss yoythcultures that have tended to either dressdown or look crap in stuff designed for them but not wearing it wirth any sense of style - think deck shoes; golfing jumpers, etc etc


PS Talking males


Nowadays as the white working class has gone young black guys dress the coolest (on the whole)


Add that to your generalisations ;-)

???? Wrote:

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> irony is difficult on line, now I know it looks

> more obvious :))



Don't use it much but is often only way of correcting/challenging Huguenot without provoking page-long diatribe about why he is right. ;-)

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