Heather Mills - yay or nay?

[Nero]

Has Heather Mills-Macca been unfairly treated by the press. On the whole, I'd say yes. She seeks publicity, but the journos responsible have seen a fault line and keep trying to widen it. Nero

[SeanMacGabhann]

Of course she has been treated badly - but why do people who try and use the press constantly to their own advantage bleat about it when the worm turns?

For the record I loathe him and her (based purely on how they come across in public - but I have a 100% track record on this) in near equal measures (although she shades it)

[downsouth]

We were talking about this at lunch today. I was trying to play devil's advocate but it came across quite claerly that she is a loathed woman. I avoid the red tops so don't actually know much but was only interested due to her 'breakdown' on TV. She's not the most likeable character but she did make some valid points re intrusion and her little girl.

[mockney piers]

Sean basically sums it all up perfectly. Live by the sword....

For the record I felt the same way about Di and Charles, and whatever the truth maybe about the McCanns they were always playing with fire doing what they were doing and I predicted the current situation a long time ago.

As Mike Skinner said, he felt sorry for the people who were always in the press, being photographed coming out of clubs in a bad state, making arses of themselves, being hounded by the paparazzi, and then realised that he never went to those clubs, took just as much booze and drugs and never made the papers.

It's a choice.

Sorry, Nay.

[atila the gooner]

I have no sympathty for her or her ilk. They make money and gain fame/notoriety as a result of the press/media, so when it all goes tits up, TOUGH!!!!! I just wish I was in a position to afford her legal bill for the sorry mess she now finds herself (much of which is of her own making).

[snorky]

sword/ death interface here

I dont care for her or her particular promotional agenda, but then again I dont care for this living breathing car crash of a person being used as space filling fodder for the tabloids

she needs help, not mockery

[Ladygooner]

She should go away, settle her divorce quietly and take the money and run.

[Jah Lush]

What Snorky said.

[SeanMacGabhann]

From listening to "people" on the radio, my understanding is that she has plenty of help (both professional and personal) but is arrogant enough to dismiss it

We know people in our own lives like this and don't like them just as much - let's not fall for the self-imposed victim status she so patently seeks

She married one of the most famous musicians on the planet - if people loved here there would still be tens of thousands of press cuttings. She is divorcing someone, and she can do this out of the public eye and with no press intrusion EASILY

[Nero]

Of course she has been treated badly - but why do people who try and use the press constantly to their own advantage bleat about it when the worm turns?

I don't think she's bleating, as that implies powerlessness and the very reason she had a 'breakdown' (er, she didn't, she cried in frustration) on TV was because she was promoting her latest cause, which is actually a commonsensical one. She wants to see the press offer proper damages to people it wrongly pursues or vilifies for no good reason. Seems fair to me.

She's a social alpinist, she married very well, she's had a shady past, but she really doesn't deserve to be hounded, for that is what it is. And she is smart and savvy - witness her acknowledgment of what the Guardian called her ex's 'Scouse chumminess' which allows him to be the victim and the victor at the same time.

And is there sexism involved here? What do the women think? I think there is. Nero

[mockney piers]

"And is there sexism involved here?"

Naa, it could be Michael Barrymore, same thing. Court publicity and the kid gloves come off when the press scents blood (quite literally in his case of course).

Do yourself a favour Mills, don't go on GMTV, don't go to the press, don't go on stupid reality tv shows, shut up and try and recover some dignity.

[snorky]

she is a psycopath - not as in hollywood blood axe chop chop chop version , but a real life clinical psycopath - thats why she does not listen and is prepared to do whatever she things is right to achieve her aims.Everything is sacrificeable in order to get her way - whatever that actually is.

we know people who have mental illness - all of us one way or another - but HMMcC is a rare beast indeed - a card carrying out in the open clinical psycopath.

We dont often come across such driven personalities like HMMcC as easily as this - the psycopaths we meet on a daily basis are usually very well hidden - I would suspect that most members of the Dragons Den are psycopathic - but thats another issue

[Jah Lush]

Hmmm...perhaps she's a sociopath, which I think is probably nearer the mark Snorky.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Nero said: "She's a social alpinist" Does she yodel at parties?

[downsouth]

Jah Lush agreed. Nero - my thoughts exactly. I do think we can be so callous at times. Leave her alone. She will go away and none of us have to hear about her.

[snorky]

Hmm , I am probabaly a social speleologist in that case

[mockney piers]

"She will go away and none of us have to hear about her."

Isn't that rather the point, that she isn't? I wish the same of Jade all the time, but so far no luck. No there's a woman who has survived several attacks by the press, you have to take your hat off* to her for her thick skin.

*and decapitate her with it, odd job stylee.

[fish]

Ladygooner Wrote:

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> She should go away, settle her divorce quietly and

> take the money and run.

>:D<

[Jah Lush]

I don't see what the study of caves has got to do with it Snorky.

[snorky]

the opposite of being a social climber

[atila the gooner]

I just wish she and ALL of her kind would fall off the face of the earth and do us all a huge favour.

[Jah Lush]

From today's Daily Mirror and I have to say that I agree mostly with what Brian Reade has written here.

Mills the martyr is lost in fantasy land

Brian Reade 01/11/2007

I'm aware that some people hold journalists in lower esteem than lonely farmers who interfere with their livestock on the way home from the pub.

I'm aware because I'm occasionally told I'm lower than a sheep-abuser. And at times I agree.

But experience has taught me that the majority of famous people who try to convince the world there is a concerted press campaign to destroy them and their loved ones, are deluded hypocrites.

Think Earl Spencer, who harangued the media for profiting from his sister's image, before turning his home into a pay-at-the-gate shrine to her memory.

Think Jonathan Aitken, who vowed to fight journalists with his sword of truth, before falling on it.

Think Cherie Blair, who claimed she was hated because the Press held an agenda against her.

When in truth the nation had simply tired of her brazen free-loading and the pressure she put on Labour MPs to send young men to their deaths in Iraq to save her hubby's skin.

And then there's Heather Mills. Planting herself before various TV cameras yesterday, showing al-Qaeda how to truly make a martyr video.

Well, excuse me for not being taken in by her tears over incessant media "lies", because untruths and Heather have a bit of history.

She says she's being called "a whore, a gold-digger and a fantasist."

So let's bring on the witnesses. There's no shortage of people with a McCartney surname to back up the gold-digger claim. And as for the fantasist accusation, where do you start?

This is a woman whom Walter Mitty would have bought material off. Who claimed her mother had lost a leg when she hadn't and who stole the identity of another Heather Mills to pose as a journalist.

Her ex-fiance Chris Terrill says when she left him she told their mutual friends it was because she'd discovered he was a gay MI6 agent, paid by the British arms industry to sabotage her anti-landmine work. Even though he was a heterosexual, freelance film-maker.

Her self-delusion is breathtaking. She attempted to deny those interviews were part of a PR offensive in her bitter divorce battle, by saying she couldn't talk about the case.

Then mentioned the judge's comments, potential settlement figures, and accused McCartney's "corner" of spreading spin.

But it's her self-obsession that is truly scary. How many women would liken their circumstances to Princess Diana's at the time of her death, or their current misery to Kate McCann's?

Mills compared herself to both. Without blinking.

When Fern Britton told her that most celebrities have to take criticism she drowned her out by yelling: "I'm responsible for nine countries."

At least that explains why she's asking Macca to part with so much cash, if she's got that many dependants.

Her stunts, pouts, lies, outbursts, desperation for publicity (think Dancing With The Stars) and delusions of grandeur have turned the self-styled Lady Mills McCartney into a sad caricature.

Someone who believes she should have a permanent seat on the UN Security Council, while the world thinks it should be a stool in Moe's Bar on The Simpsons.

And all the Press does is reflect that much-deserved public derision.

The truth is, Heather, we don't hate you. We've just sussed you. Which, to the Lady Mayoress of Fantasy Island, is probably the cruellest blow of all.

[Keef]

I'm no fan of hers, but I absolutely hate the twat she married, and for that reason I'm with her.

Unfortunately there was only ever going to be one winner, just because he wrote some good tunes way back when with another dickhead, the man is loved. Shame he wasn't visiting his old song writing partner on that fatefull day! chapman could have gotten 2 for the price of 1, and we would have been spared a lot of pathetic drivle over the years!

[snorky]

I hated Wings.

[Brendan]

I?m so indifferent I will not even bother posting a comment.

Oh wait. :-S