Riots in Tottenham......

[LadyDeliah]

This is not directly relevant but quite interesting:

Total deaths in police custody or otherwise following contact with the police, England & Wales 1990-date

Type Metropolitan Police Other forces Total

Custody 248 689 937

Pursuit 32 278 310

RTI 19 90 109

Shooting 20 32 52

All deaths 319 1089 1408

Source: http://inquest.gn.apc.org/website/statistics/deaths-in-police-custody

[Huguenot]

That data is a bit misrepresentative, and one might say inflammatory?

This is a better way of presenting the data which demonstrates a police force making incredible inroads into effectively managing incidents:

http://inquest.gn.apc.org/graphs/deaths_in_police_custody.gif

In fact deaths in police custody are lower now than as far back as the records go.

This isn't going to become a thread where people make inflamatory claims and others have to set them right is it?

[LadyDeliah]

Death by shooting doesn't seem to have gone down though.

http://inquest.gn.apc.org/website/graphs/police_shootings.gif

[LadyDeliah]

Well it's more up and down.

[Huguenot]

No Lady Delilah, that's crazy.

You've deliberately chosen shootings where the figures are so small they are meaningless.

Those figures are just about the criminals, not about police behvaiour or policy.

Why are you deliberately trying to inflame the situation and make misleading claims?

[richardbach]

Otta Wrote:

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> So, because one arsehole policeman got heavy

> handed at a protest, and someone lost their life,

> ALL police just be thugs.

>

> I assume then that you believe ALL black boys a

> knife carrying thugs, and ALL footy fans like a

> fight, and ALL scoucers are thieves?

i think it takes a specil type of personn to be a policeman and that poersonn is likly to be a thug

[zeban]

Not true at at Richardbach. What a stupid thing to say.

I'm not the biggest fan of police myself and I do think some are in way too much for the power but I wouldn't call them thugs at all. There are some decent ones out there. I have no sympathy for a drug dealing gun toting idiot.

[Otta]

One of my good pals is a police officer, and through him, I've met qite a few. I admit, that for the most part, they're not my kind of people, and some of them are just plain thick. A couple have even said "I'm in it for the action, which made me laugh.

However, that doesn't mean that they're all blood thirsty nut jobs who can't wait to gun people down, or beat them to death in a cell.

I'm not a big fan of the police, I don't like how they do a lot of things, and I believe that they watch out for each other, and cover things up. HOWEVER, I don't think they're rotten to the core, and I suspect that when the details of this incident come out, they will show that they had little choice but to put this guy down.

[maxxi]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> SpaghettiSue40 Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > Now you are both being silly, but surely there

> > must be an instant 'bullet' that isnt fatal.

> Any

> > scientists or inventors out there?

>

> In Australia they are working on a rifle that

> fires a venomous snake at speed. In tests the

> snake will bite the target 99 out of 100 times.

> Once incapaciated, which takes a couple of

> seconds, the aggressor can be given the antidote

> to the snake's poison to ensure death does not

> occur. It should be in use soon.

> BTW No harm comes to the creature

Ah yes the Viper Sniper, often used in conjunction with the Quokka Stoppa, a bazooka-like weapon which fires this small marsupial at locked doors etc. to gain entry.

[Alan Medic]

richardbach Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > So, because one arsehole policeman got heavy

> > handed at a protest, and someone lost their

> life,

> > ALL police just be thugs.

> >

> > I assume then that you believe ALL black boys a

> > knife carrying thugs, and ALL footy fans like a

> > fight, and ALL scoucers are thieves?

>

>

> i think it takes a specil type of personn to be a

> policeman and that poersonn is likly to be a thug

Richard, I'm sure that's not your name as you can't spell. Is it Ratbag?

[Michael Palaeologus]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> Well it's more up and down.

BUT - the number reduced by 50% from 2009 to 2010!!!!!

From 2 to 1.

These figures tell us nothing.

[Alan Medic]

Zeban, you either agree with everything or you talk to non beings. The penny will drop.

[Frankito]

Ah right so R is one of them? Is the PM person you mentioned also one of them?

[richardbach]

ia have exprience of police acts and let me tell you that the met is not is clean as it is painted white

[Frankito]

A bot who has been programmed by someone who can't spell, bless

[richardbach]

im afraid you do not know what i know and never will and i knoiw how they operate

[Frankito]

And thank God for that, bot.

*sh@t if he is real, I have just made a frenemy for life*

[maxxi]

Try a post about the effects of soft cheeses on rioting youth and see how he/she/it responds - on second thought don't; someone else is bound to find a corollary (Huge stop wiki-ing 'Roquefort Riots and the Brie Brouhaha').

[richardbach]

i am afraid you do not know what you are talking ab out on so mkany issues

[Santerme]

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> Death by shooting doesn't seem to have gone down

> though.

>

> http://inquest.gn.apc.org/website/graphs/police_sh

> ootings.gif

You are kidding, right.

I live five months of the year in North America those statistics would represent a very small town in Iowa.

[Huguenot]

Don't get me started.

Gastric infection, lactose intolerance all serve to make the average North Londoner highly irritable.

Despite boycotts of retailers selling non-aged cheese, there's a massive and violent underground network controlling supplies and milking the profits.

Profits are so large that they've been known to be worth killing for... It's a powder keg I tell you.

[maxxi]

Huguenot Wrote:

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> Don't get me started.

>

> Gastric infection, lactose intolerance all serve

> to make the average North Londoner highly

> irritable.

>

> Despite boycotts of retailers selling non-aged

> cheese, there's a massive and violent underground

> network controlling supplies and milking the

> profits.

>

Which they presumably make into the highly sought after but illegal 'conflict cheese'.

[Alan Medic]

Do you mind? I'm trying to start a business. I don't need negative publicity at this stage.

[Alan Medic]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Do you mind? I'm trying to start a business. I

> don't need negative publicity at this stage.

What the hell is this post doing in here?

[p_glover]

At the end of the day a bad man on London's street has been taken off them after being found in possession of a gun.

1) why has he got a gun?

2) what's he intending to do with it?

Whatever happens, hats off to the police officer that made that decision to fire. If it wasn't for these brave cops people like Gangster Mark Duggan would be walking around the streets causing pain and grief to other families with the gun he carries.

Even if he didn't fire first and pointed the gun at the officers they are well within all their rights to pull the trigger and shoot him. "Common Law" - Sect 3 Criminal Law Act

You cant expect an armed cop to wait around all day telling an armed and dangerous man to put the gun down while it is pointing at him.

At the end of the day the officers have the right to go home to there families etc like the rest of us after doing our job.

I feel whatever the police do they are always blamed in one way and never really praised. Incidents were armed criminals are taken of the streets occur daily by our armed police and only in a few cases are shots fired. When was the last one...2008 was it in Chelsea. 3 years with no deaths!

Next we will being moaning about our soldiers firing at the Taliban and killing them. It's exactly the same. if they point an Ak47 at you, you will want the soldier to pull the trigger first and kill them before he dies!

Also lets not have any more stupid questions about why police didn't shoot him in the leg, arm etc....Grow up.

Live by the sword die by sword!