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'Was he executed?'


Oh come on, even De Menezes wasn't an execution, nobody knew who he was. It could not have been a premeditated death sentence.


It was operatives in a panicked security force, in a panicked nation, operating in an extermely high stress environment with their judgment clouded, poor communications and limited information.


Claiming this was an 'execution' is deliberately fuelling conflict, and action that brings no benefit to anyone.

DulwichFox I know the area well actually. And I can truly say that it's one of the worst and most dangerous parts of London. Most parts of London have their good parts and their bad but Tottenham is a truly horrible area and very unsafe. I don't know why but it just seems to attract pretty unsavoury people. Always has done. There's so much gang activity, drug dealing. The amount of rapes that occur around the area is shocking.


So if the police presence around there gets heavy, if they use a lot of stop and search, then as far as I'm concerned, it's completely justified. The guy had a gun. As far as I'm concerned, you have a gun because you intend to kill or maim another person. Yet when the tables are turned and you're then killed yourself, it's a tragedy! I mean, really?!

Personally speaking, if there was a nutter loose on Therapia Rd with a gun, harmless or otherwise I would be willing the police to take him down. Negotiating and group hugs don't seem appropriate when the safety of other people is being threatened.


Totally agreeing with Huggie's point on De Menedes affair, tragic wrong-place-wrong-time stuff but bigger picture, the police are there to protect the well-being of the masses who chhose to toe the line.


If you live by the sword, you die by the sword. End of!

Just heard from someone who knows the family of the guy who was shot and they are saying that he was dragged out of the cab and pinned down before he was shot.


The area is packed full of CCTV cameras. If the police did nothing wrong, they could release the CCTV and prevent further unrest.

SpaghettiSue40 Wrote:

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> Now you are both being silly, but surely there

> must be an instant 'bullet' that isnt fatal. Any

> scientists or inventors out there?


In Australia they are working on a rifle that fires a venomous snake at speed. In tests the snake will bite the target 99 out of 100 times. Once incapaciated, which takes a couple of seconds, the aggressor can be given the antidote to the snake's poison to ensure death does not occur. It should be in use soon.

BTW No harm comes to the creature

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> Just heard from someone who knows the family of

> the guy who was shot and they are saying that he

> was dragged out of the cab and pinned down before

> he was shot.

>

> The area is packed full of CCTV cameras. If the

> police did nothing wrong, they could release the

> CCTV and prevent further unrest.


But what if they doctor the tapes first?


Seriously, it is evidence both for future prosecutions if others are involved or the IPCC investigation.


Unrest is clearly yobs jumping on the bandwagon.


I lived on Brixton Hill and was in Brixton during the riots there.....


It was pure mob violence and criminality.....

it now appears that many of the rioters came from as far afield as nottingham to "enjoy" the night's violence. my information is that the dead guy is a well known gun-toting drug dealer and his luck just ran out. the people on here who like to assume that the cops are a bunch of gun crazy nutters should really take a close look at themselves. btw: I am many ideological miles from the being an apologist for the police.

LadyDeliah Wrote:

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> Just heard from someone who knows the family of

> the guy who was shot and they are saying that he

> was dragged out of the cab and pinned down before

> he was shot.



So he was executed in cold blood? That's some pure bulls---.

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