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How long does a club remain 'big' on the grounds of past glories?

After a great 80s it was hard me as an Evertonian to swallow the fall to mediocrity through the 90s (witness accusations of bitter blues etc).

I think Liverpool really are in danger of falling away, that's why it's crucial they get the right man in and perhaps that's why Hodgson didn't quite get the support from a fanbase who largely knew all along he wasn't the man for the job.

Atticus Wrote:

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> How long does a club remain 'big' on the grounds

> of past glories?

> After a great 80s it was hard me as an Evertonian

> to swallow the fall to mediocrity through the 90s

> (witness accusations of bitter blues etc).

> I think Liverpool really are in danger of falling

> away...


Couldn't agree more. Excellent post.

I think part of the problem the Liverpool fans had with Hodgson is that he was appointed by the previous hated regime and he wasn't Rafa. I think it's a matter of time before he goes now but they really do have to make the right appointment and give the manager full backing financially otherwise I can see Liverpool being a mid-table side for many years to come. Liverpool are a massive club and the standards set have to be kept very high otherwise it will be a case of how the mighty have fallen.
I think the new bloke's got some money and will invests but it's going to be a few seasons. Enough Liverpool fans seemed to be behind tRafa for me to believe them rather than the media version but only just, on paper, objectively it 'apperaed' he'd lost the team and his way.

Keef Wrote:

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> He deserved a chance at least, being

> warmly welcomed for his first home match might

> have been a good start. Good luck to you Woy,

> you're a decent chap who has been treated badly by

> a load of spoilt kids.


Well put, I've been trying to phrase that for a couple of days. Players and fans have let the club down.

He was warmly welcomed at his first home game. Honestly, this is why you can't believe whats in the press. Were any of you at the game to make an honest judgement?


I can tell you that his first EVER competitive match was against Rabotnicki in Macedonia, where his name was sung. But hey? What the f*ck do I know?

Emerson Crane Wrote:

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> SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> >

> > And Emerson - if enough people are pointing the

> > finger at you at least have pause for thought

> and

> > think it might be you and not them?

>

> Oh sure, but the reverse may also be true, no?



Eh - Sean just asked you to reverse your thinking. Now you are suggesting a double reverse ?

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Emerson Crane Wrote:

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> > SeanMacGabhann Wrote:

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> > >

> > > And Emerson - if enough people are pointing

> the

> > > finger at you at least have pause for thought

> > and

> > > think it might be you and not them?

> >

> > Oh sure, but the reverse may also be true, no?

>

>

> Eh - Sean just asked you to reverse your thinking.

> Now you are suggesting a double reverse ?



Put in simple terms, I'm suggesting the opposite could also be true. Not sure I can find any way of explaining more simply. I didn't think it was that difficult to comprehend in the first place.

Keef Wrote:

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> Anna, when his name was sang at his first match,

> did the lyrics go something like "@#$%& off Woy,

> bring back Rafa"? ;-)


That would either be "fuck off Woy, bring back Wafa" or "fuck off Roy, bring back Rafa".


Either one has a speech impediment, or one does not.

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