Football Focus

[Otta]

Parkdrive / Ladygooner, are you aware that Arsenal match is now at 3pm on the 27th.

It's on BBC Website.

[????]

Well. A great result for Manchester....and not for Mick's bet

[????]

..goalkeeper sent off for kicking spectator

Everyone seen this? My sympathy is with the keeper, the bloke was trying to drop kick him from behind, it's hardly a Cantona tyep assault

[Mick Mac]

Having seen it for the first time, absolutely agree with Mr Quids. If you are attacked, which he was, then you are enitled to take a little revenge. Live by the sword and die by the sword.

As for my bet. Spurs on the drift from 22 to 32....long way to go though.

[candj]

Yes, but the goalkeeper did have a few extra heartfelt kicks at the spectator.

Don't ask why I'm even commenting on this thread... I just happened to see it.

[Mick Mac]

No probs Candj

But - If I kicked someone for absolutley no reason I'd expect more than a few kicks back, and I would deserve it.

[Undisputedtruth]

Self defence - even for the subsequent kicks.

[Laddy Muck]

I, too, agree with Master Quids and cannot help but sympathise with the goalkeeper. There but for the grace of God...

But then - presumably - there is the issue of reasonable/unreasonable force (he was wearing studs) etc...

Still, the red card has since been rescinded.

[Undisputedtruth]

The Dutch FA handled the situation well.

I too questioned whether the keeper had used reasonable force. Then I concluded he should have kicked the fan harder.:))

[candj]

Oh, I'm not disagreeing and also feel it was deserved, after all, he could have been some psycho with a knife or whatever and I would have the same response if someone was walking towards me like that ... just think the ref thought it was excessive force. Also liked that the team walked off the pitch in response.

[Alan Medic]

What rule of football allowed the ref give him a red card?

[Atticus]

Otta, this might be of some interest, I haven't read it to be honest but the opening salvo seems to represent much of what I've read on these pages

http://www.theanfieldwrap.com/2011/12/hypocrisy-the-english-disease/#.TvO2XdGZEAV.facebook

[Otta]

Thanks for that Atticus, it's a very well written piece.

[Jah Lush]

Just read it myself. Excellent article.

[SCSB79]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> What rule of football allowed the ref give him a

> red card?

Violent conduct. I don't believe it has to be directed towards a player or official...

[Otta]

Van Der Vaart out with a hamstring problem. Explains why he was anonymous before being taken off last night.

[Jah Lush]

Bugger! Injuries starting to pile up.

[ratty]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Bugger! Injuries starting to pile up.

Worry not Jah, Arry's favourite time of year starts in 8 days!

[Parkdrive]

Otta Wrote:

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> Parkdrive / Ladygooner, are you aware that Arsenal

> match is now at 3pm on the 27th.

>

> It's on BBC Website.

Yes thank god for that!!! I was starting to panick about how the heck I would find a parking space.

[Laddy Muck]

Had to look this one up out of pure curiosity. Presumably the referee was relying on one (or more) of these rules, Mr. Medic.

A player, substitute or substituted player is sent off and shown the red

card if he commits any of the following seven offences:

1. is guilty of serious foul play

2. is guilty of violent conduct...

...6. uses offensive or insulting or abusive language and/or gestures.

I am really surprised at how broad and unspecific these rules are. What, for example constitutes "serious foul play"? I didn't find a "definitions' section".

[Parkdrive]

???? Wrote:

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> ..goalkeeper sent off for kicking spectator

>

> Everyone seen this? My sympathy is with the

> keeper, the bloke was trying to drop kick him from

> behind, it's hardly a Cantona tyep assault

So what was the keeper supposed to do? Wait to get assaulted before he defends himslef. Thankfully it appears common sense has prevailed and the red card has been rescinded.

[Jah Lush]

Laddy Muck Wrote:

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>

> I am really surprised at how broad and unspecific

> these rules are. What, for example constitutes

> "serious foul play"? I didn't find a

> "definitions' section".

Look no further than Roy Keane's "foul" on Alf Hinge Haaland.

[Parkdrive]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Laddy Muck Wrote:

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> >

> > I am really surprised at how broad and

> unspecific

> > these rules are. What, for example constitutes

> > "serious foul play"? I didn't find a

> > "definitions' section".

>

> Look no further than Roy Keane's "foul" on Alf

> Hinge Haaland.

> Roy ends Alf's career.

This episode was disgraceful quite how he escaped legal proceedings is beyond me. And before anybody says anything, It's not just because he was a united player, its just unforgiveable. Full stop.

[Otta]

That really is sickening. A great player, but a real nasty piece of work, with far to big an ego.

[Laddy Muck]

I remember that, Jah. It was truly shocking at the time and is no less so watching it again now.