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Agree with SJ. Chelsea players decide which manager they want to play for and which one they dont.


New managers can get results otta, but more important perhaps is that Abramovich has warned them to perform or get out.


Why Di Matteo allowed JT to instruct the team from the sidelies shows problems lie ahead. Any new Chelsea manager has to conquer JT before he can have real control.

Absolutely disagree. As Otta says - who would give up the chase for titles and cups eg the premiership - not the longstanding likes of Terry, Cole, Lamps etc. Also, would the newer signings go along with it all eg Luiz and Torres (he can't score anyway).

Dimatteo is an ex teammate and JT was his Captain - its a close relationship, everyone was pulling together.

The Chelsea haters make me laugh - play rubbish and we are after getting the manager the tin tack/play well and as a team and this proves we wanted the manager sacked.Don't be jealous.



Hmm - I'd say some players have too MUCH pride. It's clear from JT's press conference ("Roman" ???!) and the way he was directing from the rouchline last night that he sees himself as "the man".


I don't know about letting results run against them, but at the top level, we see players not give 100% and it affects the team and results all the time


Before last night's game it was widely discussed about the toxic power in Chelsea's dressing room. So yes, a memorable night, an exciting match, a fantastic result are all true. But the problems at Chelsea (and any club that has had so many managers, at such cost DOES have major problems) won't go away just because of last night

CSKA Fulham represent everthing thats bad about the modern game, from the oligarch that owns the club down to the theatrics of that big Jessie Drogba, covering his eyes with his hands and peeking through his fingers to make sure he got his foul. Unfortunately, you were caught on camera chump. Let's hope you get turned inside out by either Barca, Real or Bayern. Small club in Fulham, you're just a small club in Fulham!!!B) Can't wait for the oil mafiosi to drop them when he grows tired of his plaything, and leaves with all those overpaid geriatrics on your payroll. Another Rangers in the making?

Much as your relentless negativity about everything in the world that doesn't involve Finsbury Park Rovers or Lionel Messi tends to grind me down PD, I have to say I entirely agree with you on this one.

I've seriously fallen out of love with the upper echelons of my beloved sport, but I reserve a special loathing for all that Chelsea represents and the part it has played in the corruption of the sport (and lets face it, it predates Abrmamovich, Bate's and his posthumous comments about Harding may well have started it for me).

El Pibe Wrote:

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> I do my best ;)

> Quick to anger you may be and a couple of

> irrational hatreds you may have (don't we all,

> don't get me started on Luton Town or Woking), but

> when you're objective you're usually on or near

> the money.



:-$ Aw shucks. Go on then, Luton Town, tell us why don't you?

2 parts growing up near there, the place just gave me the heebie-jeebies.

1 part West Ham bogey-team (much less so in recent years, but memories are long).


Woking and Stevenage (my other team) had some mighty ding-dongs and crunch matches over the years, though again, Stevenage have moved on for the time being.

El Pibe Wrote:

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> 2 parts growing up near there, the place just gave

> me the heebie-jeebies.

> 1 part West Ham bogey-team (much less so in recent

> years, but memories are long).

>

> Woking and Stevenage (my other team) had some

> mighty ding-dongs and crunch matches over the

> years, though again, Stevenage have moved on for

> the time being.


Ok fair play to you.


If ever we needed reminding that European football is gaining ground on us, and in the case of Spain surpassing us, last nights games were a timely reminder. Bilbao were brilliant, and I hope they go on to win the thing. Excellent display by them and Ferguson gracious in defeat. Well done.

Not being keen on Luton.....


er...Mine's much more practical. A semi-final defeat in theLeague Cup and a 1/4 in the FA Cup 2 seasons later. Plus getting beat by Liverpool on the plastic in 1986 when my memory seems to remember they hadn't lost for ages.


Personally I hate Chelsea and always have - pure tribalism admiitedly, hated them when they were crap too but now they've the worst kind of sloaney newbie fans bar non.


I like my hatreds in Football - Spuds, Chelsea and 'wall



PS Apologies Maxxi think I sent you this as a pm by mistake

Parkdrive Wrote:

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> If ever we needed reminding that European football

> is gaining ground on us, and in the case of Spain

> surpassing us, last nights games were a timely

> reminder. Bilbao were brilliant, and I hope they

> go on to win the thing. Excellent display by them

> and Ferguson gracious in defeat. Well done.


Seconded, Bilbao were excellent and a joy to watch.

When their full back did those 3 step overs in the Utd box, even I wanted him to score.

I'm sure all the big european clubs will be circling over Bilbao this summer.

Their fans were brilliant at OT and last night also very gracious by giving Giggs a standing ovation when he was substituted.

I hope they go on to win it too...

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