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Great article in the Grauniad today. Think it really should have been entitled let's move of Bellenden Road, the Rye or East Dulwich. One of the thing that makes Peckham is the great diversity, that also makes that the shops are far more interesting than most high streets. Yes I know that this has both good and down sides. Yet who did they find to talk about Peckham? Locals with such exotic names as Susie, Rosie and Sarah.


[PS I am being ironic/sarcastic]

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What on earth has OFAH got to do with Peckham? Delboy has a vague SE English Accent. The only black bloke in there has a Scouse accent. Peckham in the 1980s and 90s would have had people from West Indian, West African, North African, Irish, the Indian Sub-continent extraction and no doubt a myriad of other ethnicicities living there. Now Eastern European as well. Desmonds reflected some of this very well. OFAH didn't. To make things even more amusing, the prequel thingy even managed to have an underground station in Peckham as well.


Enjoy the sitcom by all means, talk about artistic licence, but do me a favour and please don't suggest that this reflects the people of Peckham over the last three decades.


I would personall prefer to live in Walford, where you know you can go into the local/pub/cleaners and find a partner, job or local gangster, no one works in town, no one shops in Tescos, that apart from the occasional ethnic stereotype everyone is all knees up mother brown.

Only Fools and Horses was about a wide-boy, a street trader, a ducker and diver, from Peckham. There were and still are people like that. It was about an aspect of society at that time, a micro culture. Today it might be referred to as an underclass. I agree it didnt really reflect Peckham as a whole and the accents were a bit dodgy, particularly Rodney and Trigger, but some of the writing was very astute and reflected reasonably well a world I was familiar with while growing up.

Somebody's going to claim Star Wars was filmed in Shepperton Studios next, and doesn't accurately reflect the racial make up of Mos Eisley.


The Cantina reflected the myriad of ethnicities really well - they should have based the whole film there. You can landspeed past cantinas that are just like this.


Do me a favour and please don't pretend Uncle Owen accrately reflected the people of Tatooine over the past three decades.

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Somebody's going to claim Star Wars was filmed in Shepperton Studios next, and doesn't accurately reflect the racial make up of Mos Eisley.


The Cantina reflected the myriad of ethnicities really well - they should have based the whole film there. You can landspeed past cantinas that are just like this.


Do me a favour and please don't pretend Uncle Owen accrately reflected the people of Tatooine over the past three decades.

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Are you suggesting that Only Fools & Horses used artistic licence in its portrayal of Peckham and its environs, and that instead of being a cutting edge documentary looking at the grittier side of life in inner London it was in fact a harmless piece of humorous fluff designed to entertain and titilate? Some claim.

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