Caravan?s moved into car park at the old Grove Tavern pub

[tomskip]

Those photos are shocking.

[tezzah]

Received this from the Dulwich estate. I can confirm that we do own the freehold and this site is leased to the Stonegate pub company. Legal action has already been put in hand for an eviction order but typically this can take some time to process, especially because of the holiday season.

I have also asked the police what they can do to assist.

Hopefully an order can be quickly obtained and if there is more that the police can do this would be very welcome indeed.

[muffins78]

That?s the van that was parked on Underhill- will images of the people help?

[ianjm]

Thanks tezzah, I have a very similar e-mail thread this morning via HML Andertons who are the managing agent for the adjoining flats. They are in contact with both the Dulwich Estate and Stonegate pub who are the leaseholder.

Apparently there was an attempt made to move them on yesterday, this obviously hasn't happened (these people never seem to go easily), but the solicitors are doing their thing to get a court order to enable some progress, and Stonegate have a clean-up company ready to go in to clear the rubbish once they do go.

[Sue]

When we passed on Sunday there were families with children sitting outside in there.

Surely this rubbish is a health hazard, particularly for the children.

Couldn't something be done from that angle (I have no idea what)?

[Jules-and-Boo]

Well, I'm sorry - but when they moved into Peckham Rye park and the hospital and people complained - they were vilified for persecuting minorities.

I'm all for letting people do their thing, but this is just ridiculous - and no comeback whatsoever.

[xapis85]

Response I've received from Dulwich Estate says they are expecting them to move on today. We shall see.....

[spider69]

With no action taken regarding the mess that has been left behind.

Someone else has to pay to clear it all up.

[xapis85]

Apparently measures already in place to clear up when they're gone...

[tezzah]

Well the smell is definitely getting worse, cannot open my Windows now which obviously isn't ideal in this weather. I have just seen two men just defecating next door to the portaloos that were placed there by coach company whilst the children play on the rubbish. The derelict Grove tavern was a bad enough site out of my bedroom window, but this is taking it to a whole new level.

[ianjm]

Apparently they told Stonegate and Dulwich Estates they'd be leaving yesterday, and then today. I think maybe they are stringing these people along, as is usual...

This problem might take some time to resolve.

[Outthereman]

They appear to be on their way....

[ianjm]

Not so sure. There are still at least four caravans and more rubbish dumping occurred in the last 10 minutes.

[xapis85]

Looks like they actually have gone!!

Now how to get them to secure the site now...

Email earlier from Dulwich Estate says "I am told that the travellers are intending to move on later today and if this is the case then plans are already in place to re-secure the site and to then arrange for the clearance of all the rubbish and refuse." but at 8.15pm the site will presumably be left unsecured as I can't imagine the plans are in place for out of hours?

[ianjm]

Blimey, they have!

[xapis85]

Can't quite see from our window but there appear to be police officers and security types already on site. Fingers crossed!!

[Unicornic]

So they have left but now are in the BT car park on lordship lane the other side of lordship lane estate just seen them go in there..... anyone know the number to report this

[Angelina]

where next, I wonder?

[tezzah]

Well they have been moved on, security on site now. Been told a clean up crew are coming in tomorrow to clear the dumped waste.

[Unicornic]

Absolute nightmare i can see them all pitched up in the car park to bt from my balcony...

[ianjm]

It's like whack a mole.

[Unicornic]

Just wondering where they are going to dump their rubbish now? doesn't look like their is much room where they are parked now.

[Fazzy]

They have now set up in the car park of the BT exchange on lordship lane

[ianjm]

Fazzy Wrote:

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> They have now set up in the car park of the BT

> exchange on lordship lane

Not sure of the extent of the Dulwich Estate, wonder who the freeholder is in this situation. BT maybe? Is there a map of the extent of the Dulwich Estate online anywhere?

[Sue]

ianjm Wrote:

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> It's like whack a mole.

Oh dear, I know I shouldn't, but that did make me laugh :))