Caravan?s moved into car park at the old Grove Tavern pub

[Unicornic]

I just called BT the man didnt seem to understand what i was saying and said he will pass it forward and didn't even ask what area I was in.... don't know how hes passing that on. I looked for a map of the dulwich estate cannot find anything online. The workers will.get a shock in the morning wjen they go to park their cars...

[Captain Marvel]

They're dumping now

[xapis85]

Such a shame the problem has just shifted! I simply cannot fathom why they don't arrest when it's blatantly illegal activity!

[spider69]

Protected

[Unicornic]

This has really made me angry they have left so much mess for somebody else to clean up and they have the cheek of just moving just round the corner to start leaving mess again... I really feel to go and tell them about them selves but what good is that going to do.

[Fazzy]

Does anyone know if BT are doing anything about this.

[uncleglen]

Who will be paying for the clean-up? This city is fast becoming a cess-pit!

[BrandNewGuy]

The landowner pays. These flytippers know that if they don't dump on public land, they don't really have to worry about the law.

[Captain Marvel]

BT have requested/served an eviction notice. 'It could take five days,' he said. Meantime, the kids are trying to break into a BT van

[ianjm]

No sign of the promised clean up crew for the Grove Tavern site.

[Jules-and-Boo]

Who are we to judge, but I can't imagine it's at all healthy to bring children up in that environment.

There's one thing relocating and the other is destroying your environment like this.

[ianjm]

Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> Who are we to judge, but I can't imagine it's at

> all healthy to bring children up in that

> environment.

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> There's one thing relocating and the other is

> destroying your environment like this.

I'd gladly take a hippie commune squat with a vegetable garden over these folks.

[NewWave]

ianjm Wrote:

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> Jules-and-Boo Wrote:

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> > Who are we to judge, but I can't imagine it's

> at

> > all healthy to bring children up in that

> > environment.

> >

> > There's one thing relocating and the other is

> > destroying your environment like this.

>

> I'd gladly take a hippie commune squat with a

> vegetable garden over these folks.

Growing up in Notting hill in the 60's there were loads go hippie communes.

I have fond memories of them, My mother had friends in them and we often went to visit,

They would often open their doors to the local community and invite them to share a meal (always brown rice based!)

have musicians jamming.

I find squatters now (because the communes were mainly squats) are destructive and disruptive.

gone are the days of peace and love.

[Jules-and-Boo]

Squatters are a different story (as they span cultures) than the traveller community, but I think this is bordering on child abuse.

Why are they above the law? If anyone else behaved like this, there would be hell to pay.

[tezzah]

The clean up of the mess left at the Grove tavern car park is finally underway.

[bsand]

Gypsies one of Hitler's untermenschen to be liquidated.

[sally buying]

Is the Bt car park full of rubbish yet

[intexasatthe moment]

Don't fancy the journey to the Old Kent Rd ? -)

[sally buying]

LOL

[Sue]

bsand Wrote:

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> Gypsies one of Hitler's untermenschen to be

> liquidated.

And your point is what, exactly?

[Chick]

It's obvious.

Sue Wrote:

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> > Gypsies one of Hitler's untermenschen to be

> > liquidated.

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>

> And your point is what, exactly?

[Penguin68]

Hitler persecuted the Roma - we also have a tradition in the UK of Irish Travellers (often and traditionally tin-smiths travelling to mend kitchen items - hence 'tinkers'). The two groups have very different origins, histories and traditions. Does anyone know which group these might belong to? And do 'New Age' travellers still exist, outwith Stonehenge solstice hopping?

[ianjm]

I'd be fine if it was just caravans. The problem was the fly tipping. Regardless of historical injustice, it's not on.

[KidKruger]

Walked past last night. Shocking mess there. Unfortunately done by a community who will insist they?re misunderstood and oppressed by wider society. Their reputation precedes them, then they live up to it just make sure.

Pricks.

[Toffee]

This amount of fly tipping is despicable. These people have no conscience. They don?t give a damn for the environment or for anyone else but themselves. They hide behind the umbrella term ?traveller?, yes they might travel but only so as to avoid getting caught and punished.