Jump to content

Recommended Posts

It should be remembered that it was a carniverous diet which allowed sufficient intake of protein to fuel our enlarged brains, which consume (weight for weight) a disporportionate amount of energy. Our herbivore cousins remained in the trees.


If we weren't (pre-historically) an omnivore species with a taste and capacity for meat (and fish) we wouldn't be the dominant primates we are today (granted with some other stuff as well - but we needed the big brains and we wouldn't have got and sustained them without a high protein diet).

lol penguin, I wish you'd posted this on the vegan thread as I've just said something remarkably similar if a bit more succinct (though your version sounds better ;-) )


it's worth noting that fat played a huge role in our encephalisation too


regarding this thread - what a fabulous idea! We've recently discovered the butcher on northcross road on saturdays and are enjoying our organic roasts... definitely up for exploring alternative cuts (we had some lovely shin steak in a slow cooker casserole the other day from Sainsbury's, dirt cheap too for a huge hunk of beef!) and alternative meats too, Le Chardon does a lovely Ostrich steak but I've not seen anything more exotic (I have to order my kudo and sprinkbok biltong and droewors online).


Also, does anyone know where I can buy grass-fed beef? I know a few online sites like Athleat and Westin gourmet that deliver meat boxes but it would be good to source non-grain fed (i.e. healthy fat ratio) beef from somewhere more local

Local butchers include;


Sparks - North Cross Road

William Rose, Lordship Lane and East Dulwich Grove

The Plough Butcher - Lordship Lane

W.Bunting - Peckham Park Road

Liberato - Woodvale

Scotch meats - Rosendale Road

Morrisons - Peckham

Sainsbury's - Dog Kennel Hill

Borough Market

Smithfield - Farringdon Road

I approve of this motion. An excellent list compiled by dbboy.


Can I recommend pheasant at this time of year. An excellent bird for flavour - like a very tasty chicken, not very gamey at all - cheap, the perfect size for two people, versatile, seasonal, British, free-range and practically organic.


It's a good roaster if basted sufficiently but I shall be doing my favourite recipe with some home made chorizo:


Pot-roast pheasant with chorizo, butter beans and parsley


William Rose will certainly have some, but most good butchers should be able to source it.

  • 2 weeks later...

If you fancy some local veg to go with your meat then try our new weekly local veg bag scheme, Local Greens.


Local Greens is a not for profit weekly veg bag scheme set up by Herne Hill and Dulwich residents. We provide great tasting, seasonal veg from small organic or spray-free farms which are as near to SE London as possible. Our closest farm is less than 11 miles away.

? Planet friendly veg grown on farms that we work in partnership with

? Minimum packaging and transportation so we can pay the farmers a good price

? Collected by you locally (making it more environmentally friendly) - often on the day it was picked

As simple and as sustainable as we can make it.

www.localgreens.org.uk


We offer a variety of weekly bags starting at ?7.50 per week

Our prices truly reflect a fair price for our farmers and cover our costs.

We use 100% recycled plastic bags rather than boxes so it's easier to carry.

?I am absolutely delighted with my mixed bag of vegetables each week and think it?s very good value for money. The vegetables are so fresh and taste amazing. I feel as though I have just picked them straight from the field!?

East Dulwich customer

maria Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> If you fancy some local veg to go with your meat

> then try our new weekly local veg bag scheme,

> Local Greens.

>

> Local Greens is a not for profit weekly veg bag

> scheme set up by Herne Hill and Dulwich residents.

> We provide great tasting, seasonal veg from small

> organic or spray-free farms which are as near to

> SE London as possible. Our closest farm is less

> than 11 miles away.

> ? Planet friendly veg grown on farms that we work

> in partnership with

> ? Minimum packaging and transportation so we can

> pay the farmers a good price

> ? Collected by you locally (making it more

> environmentally friendly) - often on the day it

> was picked

> As simple and as sustainable as we can make it.

> www.localgreens.org.uk

>

> We offer a variety of weekly bags starting at

> ?7.50 per week

> Our prices truly reflect a fair price for our

> farmers and cover our costs.

> We use 100% recycled plastic bags rather than

> boxes so it's easier to carry.

> ?I am absolutely delighted with my mixed bag of

> vegetables each week and think it?s very good

> value for money. The vegetables are so fresh and

> taste amazing. I feel as though I have just picked

> them straight from the field!?

> East Dulwich customer


That looks like a great idea and might start using that - however, how come the bags with no potatoes are more expensive than the ones with potatoes?

Good luck with the "support your local Dulwich butcher day"


Suggest you might want to make some voluntary contributions to the NHS as you will probably be using them a lot when all the health problems kick in (increased risk of heart disease, obesity etc.)


Also I do hope nobody in favour of this thread owns any pets as that would be quite hypocritical. A bit like those sanctimonious vegetarians who eat dairy products.

DJKQ - I doubt you will find a butcher who can fulfill that criteria.


All animals for sale have to be slaughtered in an approved abbatoir. I'm guessing the processes involved there upset you?


The best possible solution would be to buy direct from the farm gate where the farmer can tell you about the animals slaughter and whether they made it as pleasant as possible. I would recommend the following for pork, lamb and poulty (sadly they don't do beef) and they will deliver in bulk if you are able to take the quantity. Alternatively, split with a friend.


Hidden Valley Pigs

James Wrote:

-------------------------------------------------------

> Good luck with the "support your local Dulwich

> butcher day"

>

> Suggest you might want to make some voluntary

> contributions to the NHS as you will probably be

> using them a lot when all the health problems kick

> in (increased risk of heart disease, obesity

> etc.)

>

> Also I do hope nobody in favour of this thread

> owns any pets as that would be quite hypocritical.

> A bit like those sanctimonious vegetarians who eat

> dairy products.


Oh James, you silly veggie, have a little dignity, won't you?


Or failing that, have a little steak or some prosciutto.

"Also I do hope nobody in favour of this thread owns any pets as that would be quite hypocritical. A bit like those sanctimonious vegetarians who eat dairy products"


Why would this be hypocritical? There's no rule that says if you eat cows you also have to eat dogs. In fact there's no rule that says what you're allowed to eat/have to eat at all*. Unless you choose to be a vegetarian/vegan/whatever.


The hypocritical ones (possibly) are the vegetarians who eat dairy products, tho' they may also be sanctimonious (but it seems unlikely). I'm certainly not going to criticise anyone who, having denied themselves bacon, seeks comfort in cheese.


*Obviously there are some rules about eating people, and endangered species and stuff, but you get the idea.

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
  • Latest Discussions

    • I've never got Christmas pudding. The only times I've managed to make it vaguely acceptable to people is thus: Buy a really tiny one when it's remaindered in Tesco's. They confound carbon dating, so the yellow labelled stuff at 75% off on Boxing Day will keep you going for years. Chop it up and soak it in Stones Ginger Wine and left over Scotch. Mix it in with a decent vanilla ice cream. It's like a festive Rum 'n' Raisin. Or: Stick a couple in a demijohn of Aldi vodka and serve it to guests, accompanied by 'The Party's Over' by Johnny Mathis when people simply won't leave your flat.
    • Not miserable at all! I feel the same and also want to complain to the council but not sure who or where best to aim it at? I have flagged it with our local MP and one Southwark councillor previously but only verbally when discussing other things and didn’t get anywhere other than them agreeing it was very frustrating etc. but would love to do something on paper. I think they’ve been pretty much every night for the last couple of weeks and my cat is hating it! As am I !
    • That is also a Young's pub, like The Cherry Tree. However fantastic the menu looks, you might want to ask exactly who will cook the food on the day, and how. Also, if  there is Christmas pudding on the menu, you might want to ask how that will be cooked, and whether it will look and/or taste anything like the Christmas puddings you have had in the past.
    • This reminds me of a situation a few years ago when a mate's Dad was coming down and fancied Franklin's for Christmas Day. He'd been there once, in September, and loved it. Obviously, they're far too tuned in to do it, so having looked around, £100 per head was pretty standard for fairly average pubs around here. That is ridiculous. I'd go with Penguin's idea; one of the best Christmas Day lunches I've ever had was at the Lahore Kebab House in Whitechapel. And it was BYO. After a couple of Guinness outside Franklin's, we decided £100 for four people was the absolute maximum, but it had to be done in the style of Franklin's and sourced within walking distance of The Gowlett. All the supermarkets knock themselves out on veg as a loss leader - particularly anything festive - and the Afghani lads on Rye Lane are brilliant for more esoteric stuff and spices, so it really doesn't need to be pricey. Here's what we came up with. It was considerably less than £100 for four. Bread & Butter (Lidl & Lurpak on offer at Iceland) Mersea Oysters (Sopers) Parsnip & Potato Soup ( I think they were both less than 20 pence a kilo at Morrisons) Smoked mackerel, Jerseys, watercress & radish (Sopers) Rolled turkey breast joint (£7.95 from Iceland) Roast Duck (two for £12 at Lidl) Mash  Carrots, star anise, butter emulsion. Stir-fried Brussels, bacon, chestnuts and Worcestershire sauce.(Lidl) Clementine and limoncello granita (all from Lidl) Stollen (Lidl) Stichelton, Cornish Cruncher, Stinking Bishop. (Marks & Sparks) There was a couple of lessons to learn: Don't freeze mash. It breaks down the cellular structure and ends up more like a French pomme purée. I renamed it 'Pomme Mikael Silvestre' after my favourite French centre-half cum left back and got away with it, but if you're not amongst football fans you may not be so lucky. Tasted great, looked like shit. Don't take the clementine granita out of the freezer too early, particularly if you've overdone it on the limoncello. It melts quickly and someone will suggest snorting it. The sugar really sticks your nostrils together on Boxing Day. Speaking of 'lost' Christmases past, John Lewis have hijacked Alison Limerick's 'Where Love Lives' for their new advert. Bastards. But not a bad ad.   Beansprout, I have a massive steel pot I bought from a Nigerian place on Choumert Road many years ago. It could do with a work out. I'm quite prepared to make a huge, spicy parsnip soup for anyone who fancies it and a few carols.  
Home
Events
Sign In

Sign In



Or sign in with one of these services

Search
×
    Search In
×
×
  • Create New...