Is there any more we can do about dog poo?

[aandl]

My husband has just got back from the park and my 2.5 year old son, his shoes and bike got covered in poo again..

I feel so exasperated and disappointed firstly that there are still so many irresponsible dog owners who don?t clear up but also that there seems to be very little that can be done in terms of fining those who don?t.

[Sue]

It's not only revolting, it is a health hazard.

https://www.nhs.uk/conditions/toxocariasis/

[Monkey]

I feel your pain. My previous neighbours used to leave our joint garden covered in dog poos, and not small ones. I don?t think bad dog owners ever change their ways. Report to the council.

[Lynne]

It's always been a pity that children can't pay on Goose Green because of the dogs and the poo. Most gardens here are small and some space to run about on would be welcomed. My son was chased by two dogs once and the owners told me it was his fault for running away.

[uncleglen]

Lynne Wrote:

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> It's always been a pity that children can't pay on

> Goose Green because of the dogs and the poo. Most

> gardens here are small and some space to run about

> on would be welcomed. My son was chased by two

> dogs once and the owners told me it was his fault

> for running away.

That kind of sums up the attitude of some dog owners. When my kids were babies and the shoes or pushchair wheels got covered in poo I would dearly have loved to follow a depositor home and shove the contents of my baby's nappies through his/her letter box

[rendelharris]

Time for this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35363991

Love dogs to a soppy extreme: despise irresponsible owners.

[Sue]

rendelharris Wrote:

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> Time for this?

>

> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-35363

> 991

>

> Love dogs to a soppy extreme: despise

> irresponsible owners.

That article was from January 2016.

I'd be interested to know if the scheme was successful.

Oh, and it took place in Barking. Ahem :))

ETA: When I go through Barking on the train, I have to bark. Childish in the extreme, I know.

I don't do it if I'm travelling alone, I hasten to add :))

[se22cat]

Another HUGE pile of dog poo on almost the same spot as it appears every day, absolutely gargantuan in size, one of many others on Frogley Road, screw these people!

[Sue]

se22cat Wrote:

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> Another HUGE pile of dog poo on almost the same

> spot as it appears every day, absolutely

> gargantuan in size, one of many others on Frogley

> Road, screw these people!

CCTV?

[KidKruger]

I saw a huge one on Frogley Rd this morning around 1000, probably the same one SE22.

Shocking disrespect for locals, allowing that.

[se22cat]

Yup, I absolutely love dogs, but anyone allowing that on a daily basis may not also be caring for their pooch properly either. Considering how many toddlers there are around the area these days, it's pretty dangerous and I wish some of our council tax got spent on clearing up Goose Green and keeping it sustainably safe and clean for both dog owners and parents of young children.

[bels123]

Report it here https://www.southwark.gov.uk/street-care/dog-fouling

[JennaAZ]

I own two large breed dogs and it's appalling the amount of poo I see around. I cannot imagine leaving my dogs poo for someone else to step in/smell/see and I'm truly sorry for all of us forced to deal with those who are not responsible dog owners. Not sure about the street poo's you're finding, but I have seen dog owners completely oblivious to what their dogs are doing in the park because they are either a) chatting to other dog owners or b) on their phone. I'll point it out when I can and dog owners are always glad I did, but a little more diligence on the parts of dog owners to actually pay attention is needed, too. At the end of the day, unfortunately, there will always be the ones who just don't care.

[goldilocks]

Oblivious owners is a massive issue in the parks but think on the pavements it?s more that people are choosing not to pick up. Reporting to the council is key. Particularly bad when it?s on grove vale and it gets trodden everywhere by people heading to the station.

[womanofdulwich]

Would it be a good idea to have a few places where people could leave their unwanted plastic bags in parks to help dog owners who've not got a bag to pick up with ?I don't own a dog but I just wondered if this was practical?

[Loutwo]

It would also be nice, whilst on this topic, if people could dispose of household waste correctly. Seeing old items of furniture, cabinets and wardrobes, mattresses, food waste, nappies, left to rot outside properties is not only unsightly but easily attracts vermin and foxes. The dog poo is part of a wider ignorance by some locals who seem to think treating a shared neighbourhood like a public lavatory is perfectly normal and acceptable behaviour.

Louisa.

[uncleglen]

Loutwo Wrote:

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> It would also be nice, whilst on this topic, if

> people could dispose of household waste correctly.

> Seeing old items of furniture, cabinets and

> wardrobes, mattresses, food waste, nappies, left

> to rot outside properties is not only unsightly

> but easily attracts vermin and foxes. The dog poo

> is part of a wider ignorance by some locals who

> seem to think treating a shared neighbourhood like

> a public lavatory is perfectly normal and

> acceptable behaviour.

>

> Louisa.

This is a direct result of the council imposing a charge on collecting the above items. Those of us that have a house with a side entrance can collect this stuff in the garden until we have 10 items and then arrange collection. If you are in a flat and do not have transportation- what else are you supposed to do with the ONE item of household furniture you want to dispose of? Maybe we should have a facility for people to get together and when they have collected 10 items- one of them arranges a collection.

I'm surprised that the furniture etc dumping is not a lot worse.

As for the dog poo- I've lived around here since 1980 and there has ALWAYS been a problem.

[jimbo1964]

It's a shame there isn't a dog licence anymore. Then a dogs dna could be directly linked to the owner. I'm also fed up with cats shitting in our garden when owners can't be arsed to train their own cat to use a litter tray.

[KidKruger]

Yes. Dogs should require a licence and DNA record kept.

No licence, dog confiscated right there and mandatory cost of dog upkeep until licence obtained / new owner found / dog put down.

DNA poo match, ?500 fine. Per poo.

Owners have had the opportunity but collectively failed (agreed, it?s always minority spoiling it for the majority) to show manners regarding dog poo on street / in parks.

[DuncanW]

bels123 Wrote:

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> Report it here

> https://www.southwark.gov.uk/street-care/dog-fouli

> ng

I share the exasperation of the OP as I'm sure most do.

I would strongly recommend that this issue is reported to the council every time. They will come round and clear it up.

Hopefully, the more council resource is used dealing with this disgusting, anti-social behavior, the more inclined the council will be to proactively enforce the existing legislation which prohibits this.

[Upwind]

KidKruger Wrote:

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> Yes. Dogs should require a licence and DNA record

> kept.

> No licence, dog confiscated right there and

> mandatory cost of dog upkeep until licence

> obtained / new owner found / dog put down.

> DNA poo match, ?500 fine. Per poo.

> Owners have had the opportunity but collectively

> failed (agreed, it?s always minority spoiling it

> for the majority) to show manners regarding dog

> poo on street / in parks.

Agreed it is a small minority who don't care and just leave their dog's mess wherever it is deposited, but, as a daily park user, I have seen there is a sizeable number of people ("Oh, but I always pick up") who pay little or no attention to what their dog is doing once in the park. These are the ones who are chatting/texting/gaily swinging a bag of poo oblivious to the fact their dog is depositing another three turds behind them. Not only that, but many of them become upset/angry when I point it out to them. I would be bloody mortified! Seen much the same in Nunhead Cemetery too, where you would think dog walkers might be extra vigilant.

For starters, I reckon people keeping off their phone and walking a few yards behind their dog(s) would have the amount of dog mess left in our parks.

[Abe_froeman]

Some dog owners are utterly obnoxious.

I've often seen people in the parks allowing their dogs to run wild, terrorizing wildlife and children in areas where they should be on a short lead. I've even seen people letting their dogs into the dog free picnic section in peckham rye.

[Siduhe]

Many years ago, when we lived in SE1 there was a weird but very successful local operation to spray uncleared up dog-poo gold or silver and pop a little flag in it. It was in a particular area or street and aimed at one or two locals who everyone knew didn't clear up after their dogs, and residents got so fed up they started trying to draw attention to it and effectively call out those few people who weren't clearing up their local streets. Apparently it worked really well. I will see if the thread is still up on the SE1 Forum.

[mrwb]

Spotted council workers out putting yellow stencils on to the pavement raising awareness of the issue. So they are doing something.

[seenbeen]

Abe_froeman Wrote:

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> Some dog owners are utterly obnoxious.

>

> I've often seen people in the parks allowing their

> dogs to run wild, terrorizing wildlife and

> children in areas where they should be on a short

> lead. I've even seen people letting their dogs

> into the dog free picnic section in peckham rye.

I challenged someone in the flower garden part of Ruskin Park once as his dog was running amok after squirrels and birds...he said 'he's only chasing squirrels'....says it all about the attitude.

I live around the corner from a primary school and there was a deposit in the middle of the pavement ...needless to say it was everywhere by nightfall