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More honesty on our Brexit plight in a 15-min #R4today interview with Dutch PM Mark Rutte than we will hear in a 6-week Tory leadership contest


He?s clearly better qualified for No 10 than any of the candidates!


If only our own politicians treated the public like grown-ups and had an honest conversation about the realities of Brexit. Even Rory Stewart trying to play the honesty card had his own unicorn of saying he would get May's deal through parliament.

As much as I dislike him, a part of me will be pleased when Johnson becomes PM, as he will finally have to own and deal with the clusterfuck he's created, and hopefully it will see him kicked out on his lying backside in 6 months time...

Interesting editorial from the Evening Standard...


Mr Johnson is the candidate who has the most room for manoeuvre to get the country out of the Brexit mess.


That may seem a paradox, as the one who helped get us into that mess, and who again today says he wants ?to get Brexit done by October 31?.


But he is careful not to ?guarantee? that date ? Mr Johnson may be loose with words when it comes to the fates of others but never when it comes to his own.


Ask yourself which of these potential prime ministers is most likely to persuade the Conservative party to vote for a repacked version of the existing deal? The one with the greatest credibility with hard Brexiteers.


Indeed, which of these possible leaders could you imagine making the even bigger leap and asking the country again for its views?


The candidate who first came up with the idea of two referendums back in early 2016. Of course, he denies all this ? and, like the other candidates, promises to get a renegotiated withdrawal agreement out of the EU.


Perhaps he will. Most likely he will not. But one thing is for sure, having finally arrived in Downing Street, Mr Johnson won?t be in a hurry to leave it. Opportunism knocks.

JohnL - totally agree.


I don't trust BORIS or Corbyn, they both spout equal measures of crap and neither can be trusted as far as you can throw them. Boris lies, blusters, makes things up on the spot and changes things as he likes. Both will be just as bad as each other and bad for the country. The sooner we can move on and have new blood running the Government IMO the better. Would the last person turn off the lights and close the door. Perhaps the Royals would like to step forward, dissolve Parliament and take control, surely they couldn't make more of a mess than the current three year fiasco we've endured so far and are likely to suffer for for the foreseeable future.

"The sooner we can move on and have new blood running the Government IMO the better."


I agree but I fear that "new blood" may be Nigel Farage who seems to be ever gaining in popularity because the electorate are seeking new blood. It's happened in the US. I'm feeling nauseous as I type this but BJ is preferable.

Hunt visits a business which employs 350 people. It has 50% of the EU market. A no deal Brexit with 10% tariffs would put it out of business. Was I hearing things when I though he said it would be worth it? What sort of fucked up logic requires a remainer MP prove how pro leave he now is by saying that? This bloody country is politically seriously ill.

Who gives a shit about where he hangs out,his parking tickets or how many posters are on his car? This imbecile is likely to dictate the future of this country. And it won't be a good outcome as he's not qualified for the job.


ETA


No offence intended to you JohnL. Just annoyed about BJ. There's a theory that the event was actually a distraction a la Trump, to avoid actually having to having explain away policies that can't work.

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Who gives a shit about where he hangs out,his

> parking tickets or how many posters are on his

> car? This imbecile is likely to dictate the future

> of this country. And it won't be a good outcome as

> he's not qualified for the job.

>

> ETA

>

> No offence intended to you JohnL. Just annoyed

> about BJ. There's a theory that the event was

> actually a distraction a la Trump, to avoid

> actually having to having explain away policies

> that can't work.


No offense taken and that could easily be true :).


In his way Hunt is as bad as he recognises the problem where due to a no deal a large number of people could lose their job and says so and then says he might have to do it anyway.

What Hunt said was unbelievable. Even if it if likely to happen, does any politician say out loud specific people will lose their jobs because of tariffs and that democracy comes first? Has he an ulterior motive or is the country just madder than I thought?

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