El Pibe Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I do Otta. It has been better and we're missing our form strikers, but overall we (in this I mean Spain, not we England) have the greatest quality and that midfield is still the best.If Other teams had been playing to their potential, particularly German, then I'd happily give them the honour, but everyone has been patchy.Russia lokoed great and bombed out.Portugal impressed last night but were insipid before that. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553359 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 "If Other teams had been playing to their potential,"But that's just it, Spain haven't. They were shocking last night, and against Ireland they weren't that special. Don't get me wrong, they could be amazing in their next game, but so far this tournament, I think Germany have looked best.And England of course... :-S Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Well I've been touting Germany since the start, it's just they haven't loked all that world beating either.It's been a fabulous tournament so far but i think because of the lack of a really strong team rather than inspite of it.The real action begins in the knockouts anyway, but I really do think it's anyone's.Beside's it's strangely reassuring having Spain threatening to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and being generally less than the sum of their parts, like order in the universe has been restored. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Alan Medic Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> > > As previously mentioned there were very leaky when> it came to bearded middle aged defenders and shots> from outside the area. Apart from that it a great> barrier.As I said before, the goals conceded were the result of poor marking and poor defensive blocking, AM. And at least England have points unlike Ireland in Euro2012. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553370 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 El Pibe Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> It's been a fabulous tournament so far but i think> because of the lack of a really strong team rather> than inspite of it.> The real action begins in the knockouts anyway,> but I really do think it's anyone's.I'd like to see Spain v Portugal in the semi finals with Nelson Oliveira with a start. This guy can play. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553429 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Undisputedtruth Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> As I said before, the goals conceded were the> result of poor marking and poor defensive> blocking, AM. And at least England have points> unlike Ireland in Euro2012.They were the result of free kicks given away by careless/dirty tackles! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553434 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Even so, you'd expect England to defend better against set pieces. Perhaps, AM could have provided defensive expertise to the Irish team. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Undisputedtruth Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Alan Medic Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > > > > As previously mentioned there were very leaky> when> > it came to bearded middle aged defenders and> shots> > from outside the area. Apart from that it a> great> > barrier.> > As I said before, the goals conceded were the> result of poor marking and poor defensive> blocking, AM. And at least England have points> unlike Ireland in Euro2012.My point UDT is that this defensive barrier you think will help England so much has not been much good so far. How this becomes an England v Ireland thing in your mind I've no idea. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553463 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 What escapes you AM, is that England were careless in given away goals while the Irish was totally outclassed. Massive difference, don't you think? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553466 Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Pibe Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 After Fridays blithering drunkenness I think a quiet one is in order. Has anyone been along to Hoopers, is there a good atmosphere for the England games? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553471 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Undisputedtruth Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> What escapes you AM, is that England were careless> in given away goals while the Irish was totally> outclassed. Massive difference, don't you think?I've no idea how you think I'm comparing Ireland to England. I do think, I don't think you do before you write. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553473 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 AM, you're in no position to compare England's defence with the Irish. Absolutely no contest. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553480 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 I give up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553484 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Probably best. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCSB79 Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Undisputedtruth Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> AM, you're in no position to compare England's> defence with the Irish. Absolutely no contest.You're right. England's defence is far superior. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553516 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Ahem! I think my fears about the officials were totally unfounded. And that ball wasn't 100-per-cent over the line. Oh no. Anyway, quarter-finals against Italy on Sunday. Bring it on. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553523 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Italy, then Greece, then Czech Republic and then the trophy - Easy! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553528 Share on other sites More sharing options...
woodrot Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 wankers, Ukraine blates scored. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553537 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ratty Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 An offside goal! England shit and won the group by 3 points! How fucking embarrassing for the sides below them eh? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
spoiltdog Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 Doesnt matter where through to the QUATERS - AND J .T. has asked for the Fourth Official to be on the Jury for his Trial COME ON ENGLAND Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553553 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted June 19, 2012 Share Posted June 19, 2012 The 4th official was from Azerbaijan. Son of 1966 official. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553555 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Undisputedtruth Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Regardless of whether the ball crossed over the line or not, the referee should have blown for offside earlier on. While Ukraine had a strong case for a goal, England had an equally strong case for offside. The two poor decisions together cancelled themselves out. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553559 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Annette Curtain Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 I'm kinda liking Roy's "Ball-Kicking-Machine" at the moThat it's made up of ugly-clunky parts is no matterAs long as the wheels dont all fall off any time soon, i'm happy"Long live the ball kicking machine"*punches imaginary shadow*Nette ☐ Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553575 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 At last, a world class performance from Gerrard in an England shirt, he was immense last night.Rooney obviously needed last night's game, and hopefully he'll be a lot sharper for the Italy game. I'm wondering as we lack creativity in midfield whether Rooney should drop back and play in 'the hole' against the Italians. Playing them instead of Spain gives us a better chance of reaching the semis, but they are still a step up in class and pedigree, and if we show some of the sloppiness of last night's performance, they'll punish us... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553581 Share on other sites More sharing options...
*Bob* Posted June 20, 2012 Share Posted June 20, 2012 Looking forward : Quarters and out, plus ?a change Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/23641-euro-2012/page/12/#findComment-553596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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