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El Pibe

El Pibe

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I do Otta.

It has been better and we're missing our form strikers, but overall we (in this I mean Spain, not we England) have the greatest quality and that midfield is still the best.

If Other teams had been playing to their potential, particularly German, then I'd happily give them the honour, but everyone has been patchy.

Russia lokoed great and bombed out.

Portugal impressed last night but were insipid before that.

Otta

Otta

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"If Other teams had been playing to their potential,"


But that's just it, Spain haven't. They were shocking last night, and against Ireland they weren't that special. Don't get me wrong, they could be amazing in their next game, but so far this tournament, I think Germany have looked best.


And England of course... :-S

El Pibe

El Pibe

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Well I've been touting Germany since the start, it's just they haven't loked all that world beating either.


It's been a fabulous tournament so far but i think because of the lack of a really strong team rather than inspite of it.

The real action begins in the knockouts anyway, but I really do think it's anyone's.


Beside's it's strangely reassuring having Spain threatening to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory and being generally less than the sum of their parts, like order in the universe has been restored.

Undisputedtruth

Undisputedtruth

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Alan Medic Wrote:

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> >

> As previously mentioned there were very leaky when

> it came to bearded middle aged defenders and shots

> from outside the area. Apart from that it a great

> barrier.


As I said before, the goals conceded were the result of poor marking and poor defensive blocking, AM. And at least England have points unlike Ireland in Euro2012.

Undisputedtruth

Undisputedtruth

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El Pibe Wrote:

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> It's been a fabulous tournament so far but i think

> because of the lack of a really strong team rather

> than inspite of it.

> The real action begins in the knockouts anyway,

> but I really do think it's anyone's.


I'd like to see Spain v Portugal in the semi finals with Nelson Oliveira with a start. This guy can play.


 

Jeremy

Jeremy

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Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> As I said before, the goals conceded were the

> result of poor marking and poor defensive

> blocking, AM. And at least England have points

> unlike Ireland in Euro2012.


They were the result of free kicks given away by careless/dirty tackles!

Alan Medic

Alan Medic

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Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Alan Medic Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > >

> > As previously mentioned there were very leaky

> when

> > it came to bearded middle aged defenders and

> shots

> > from outside the area. Apart from that it a

> great

> > barrier.

>

> As I said before, the goals conceded were the

> result of poor marking and poor defensive

> blocking, AM. And at least England have points

> unlike Ireland in Euro2012.


My point UDT is that this defensive barrier you think will help England so much has not been much good so far. How this becomes an England v Ireland thing in your mind I've no idea.

Alan Medic

Alan Medic

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Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> What escapes you AM, is that England were careless

> in given away goals while the Irish was totally

> outclassed. Massive difference, don't you think?


I've no idea how you think I'm comparing Ireland to England. I do think, I don't think you do before you write.

Undisputedtruth

Undisputedtruth

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Regardless of whether the ball crossed over the line or not, the referee should have blown for offside earlier on. While Ukraine had a strong case for a goal, England had an equally strong case for offside. The two poor decisions together cancelled themselves out.
red devil

red devil

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At last, a world class performance from Gerrard in an England shirt, he was immense last night.

Rooney obviously needed last night's game, and hopefully he'll be a lot sharper for the Italy game.

I'm wondering as we lack creativity in midfield whether Rooney should drop back and play in 'the hole' against the Italians. Playing them instead of Spain gives us a better chance of reaching the semis, but they are still a step up in class and pedigree, and if we show some of the sloppiness of last night's performance, they'll punish us...

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