C'mon ANDY

[Help-Ma-Boab]

*pulls up chair, gets popcorn etc, etc, etc...*

[Alan Medic]

Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> Otta Wrote:

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> > Don't care either way. Good luck to him, as

> > Federer is arrogant, but I won't swell with

> > British pride if he wins, and if he was playing

> > Nadal I'd cheer Nadal because he's way more

> > entertaining than any of them.

>

> I see that you're trying to extend your playground

> logic to the world of men's tennis.

>

> Top level sports men and women have, by their very

> nature, arrogance. It is why these sports people

> compete with each other for the prize of being the

> very best.

And you would know that because of what? What top level of anything have you competed at?

[woodrot]

Murray was always a miserable sour faced greeting Scot despised and mocked as a loser by the Ingerlish

Now he is a chest thumping, humble, lion hearted hero, worshipped as a brave loser by the Ingerlish

[????]

..i've still got him as another scottish loser

[red devil]

Alan Medic Wrote:

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> Undisputedtruth Wrote:

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> > Otta Wrote:

> >

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> > -----

> > > Don't care either way. Good luck to him, as

> > > Federer is arrogant, but I won't swell with

> > > British pride if he wins, and if he was

> playing

> > > Nadal I'd cheer Nadal because he's way more

> > > entertaining than any of them.

> >

> > I see that you're trying to extend your

> playground

> > logic to the world of men's tennis.

> >

> > Top level sports men and women have, by their

> very

> > nature, arrogance. It is why these sports

> people

> > compete with each other for the prize of being

> the

> > very best.

>

>

> And you would know that because of what? What top

> level of anything have you competed at?

Bullshitting perchance?..

[Undisputedtruth]

red devil Wrote:

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> Bullshitting perchance?..

Arrogance amongst sports people is pretty rife. A simple google search using arrogance and sports gives an indication.

Still, no amount of playground logic will be enough to silence me.

[Otta]

What about a bullet?

[Otta]

Anyway, Federer a lot more humble on "Today at Wimbledon" than he was a couple of years back.

Still not overly humble though.

[Undisputedtruth]

Otta Wrote:

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> Anyway, Federer a lot more humble on "Today at

> Wimbledon" than he was a couple of years back.

>

> Still not overly humble though.

Do you expect Federer to shed tears for Murray?

[Otta]

Not at all. A good winner is a bigger person in my book though.

[Jeremy]

Federer... fantastic player no doubt, but outfits like this really, really annoy me.

 

[the-e-dealer]

Britain doesn't really do much in sport anymore.

[StraferJack]

"Britain doesn't really do much in sport anymore."

Weird -

first Brit in a Wimbledon final since 1938

England football team ranked #4 in the world (however bizaarly)

Olympics in London

Current Champions League Holders - Chelsea

and the list could go on

[the-e-dealer]

Oh yeah we play we just don't win.

[Mick Mac]

World golf number 1,2,3

[DulwichFox]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> "Britain doesn't really do much in sport

> anymore."

>

> Weird -

> first Brit in a Wimbledon final since 1938-------------- He Lost

> England football team ranked #4 in the world------------ Knocked out. (slaughtered)

> (however bizaarly)

> Olympics in London-------------------------------------- Let's see how we get on.

> Current Champions League Holders - Chelsea-------------- Well Done Chelsea.

> and the list could go on-------------------------------- Tell us more.. ??

Fox.

[the-e-dealer]

Sorry Champions League is just UK, us playing with ourselves like WORLD BASEBALL just US.

[Help-Ma-Boab]

Pretty handy at Gliding and bowling all the same...and squash.

[steveo]

Er, cricket

[red devil]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> Sorry Champions League is just UK, us playing with

> ourselves like WORLD BASEBALL just US.

No it's not, it's a European tournament...

[the-e-dealer]

oh good so we got some golf and football.

[StraferJack]

as opposed to what and when? When is the era you are harking back to?

[steveo]

Hello! Can you hear me?

The cricket team.

[red devil]

Murray is a bit unfortunate in that he is playing in a 'golden era' where there are 3 world class players in Federer, Djokovic and Nadal. The odds of him not playing one of them at some point in a tournemant are pretty slim. Just getting to a final of a Grand Slam is a good achievement in itself, especially Wimbledon with all the pressure that is thrown at him. His biggest problem will be how he copes mentally with another Grand Slam final defeat, his fourth I believe. Maybe he just needs a bit of luck to get over the line. Yesterday it was against him in that the rain delay and subsequently playing under the roof played into Fed's hands...

[Mick Mac]

I think its a pretty poor excuse that he's up against 3 world class players...

Would he have fared any better in the era of Borg, McEnroe and Connors ?

He just needs to get better. And he is getting better. He is young ish and likely to be around a bit longer than Federer/Nadal but it would be even better if he could step up to their level.

edited with help from boab