PLaces that used to be crap but are now good

[El Pibe]

Inspired by snorks via quids.

Wembley Stadium, ok far from perfect but that old stadium, iconic it may have been but it was just awful in every possible way.

The Roundhouse, from down at heel theatre to London's best music venue.

errrmmmm

The Black Cherry -> Draught House?

[Otta]

The Castle!

[El Pibe]

True. The Phoenix and the Plough are better than their previous incarnations too.

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El Pibe Wrote:

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> True. The Phoenix and the Plough are better than

> their previous incarnations too.

..which is ironic, because in their incarnations before those they were...The Pheonix* and The Plough

*and Firkin

[maxxi]

Draught House yes.

Preferred Roundhouse when it was confusing and falling to bits - saw Hauser Orkater there in 1978, mad and brilliant.

['bout now]

Upton Park because I can now take my kids.......

[Chick]

The Gowlett ever since Johny took over.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

"Upton Park because I can now take my kids......."

I have Child Line number if they need it.

[woodrot]

bossman wines. shite name but the most stunning selection of beers in the hood

[bsand]

The Dome

[citizenED]

Horniman Triangle.

[Otta]

The triangle went from being great, although it would have broken every modern H&S rule in the book, to derelict, to great again.

[Guest]

The number 12 bus at night. Now it's not bendy not so many people get on without paying and it feels a safer place to be.

[Guest]

Also: big pants. Vintage summer dresses look better with vintage big knickers underneath. Fact.

[civilservant]

Places that used to be good but are now crap - 39 posts so far

Places that used to be crap but are now good - 14 posts, not counting this one

Is everywhere going to hell in a handcart? Or is ED not populated by little rays of sunshine?

[guna nua]

I'm moving...it's too entertaining,exciting,compelling and interesting here for me ..no really !

[El Pibe]

"Or is ED not populated by little rays of sunshine?"

Or is the EDF populated by miserable moaning ninnies? Mayhap....

[StraferJack]

Blackfriars Station - WAS a fetid series of tiny corridors with no room for people to move between overground and underground stations. NOW it's a bright, airy station with plenty of room to get about, and 2 extra overground platforms. And it's not even finished.

The HOB. WAS a nondescript boozer albeit with a decent pinball table. NOW it's one of the best comedy clubs in London and the boozer is slightly more script. Plus you can order or take in food from anywhere else. Bonus

Green & Blue site. WAS a good, if slightly overrated cafe, then a very sorry and sad Italian restaurant before becoming one of the best wine shops and bars around

[El Pibe]

Blackfriars, bits of it still a bit claustrophobic and can't wait for the hoardings to come down on the main platforms, but I'm genuinely excited about what it will become.

On a similar note Kings Cross is less the hell hole it has always been these days.

[StraferJack]

Claustrophobic? I suppose the northboundplatform was a bit temporary corridor, but it has opened right up this week. And I know what you mean about the hoardings

It's all golden compared to the temporary pedestrian bridge that was at Denmark Hill tho

[Jeremy]

St Pancras is now one of the nicest stations around. And while I've not been in the hotel, the frontage now looks absolutely stunning. And the wider Kings Cross area is smarter and less seedy than it used to be.

Locally... Foresters Arms was a complete shithole (I don't care if it had pool tables), The Bishop is a lot better, despite the influx of knobs on the weekends.

The Tiger in Camberwell is a massive improvement over the Silver Buckle.

[El Pibe]

ALan Dale will be very upset by tht comment jeremy, assuming he still reads.

This message will self destruct in about 3 weeks.

[civilservant]

full marks to the new St Pancras station

also:

the Great Exhibition that used to be the CPT

even, dare I say it, the Actress that used to be the Uplands

little ray of sunshine, me!

[Jeremy]

The Uplands was pretty bad. When I first came to ED, the Uplands was one of the more "fancy" pubs. It had obvious gastro aspirations, complete with open kitchen, but the food was horrid.

[Otta]

When did you move to ED, 2002ish?