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ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote:

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> I'd far rather put up with some noise during the

> daytime, than the racket my neighbours and their

> child make at 7:30am every Saturday and Sunday

> morning - without fail. That has a far greater

> effect and the quality of my R&R come Monday

> morning.


7.30am is the daytime.

For 3 years I suffered a self build at the back of my garden that started at roughly 7 am with the 3 builders swearing at each other and continued through the day with heart FM full blast. Bank holidays included. The houses are now empty, over priced eye sores (plus they took down some trees thus destroying my view)and the guys did not apologies once and yes I did go ask them to turn it down, everyday, and yes I was made to feel like a total cow.


One event in the park? Jeez Louise, I had both kids with chicken pox one year combined with a mini digger and dirrge FM. Count yourself lucky, the council could do nothing to stop them and they never had to ask for any permissions. 7 AM, pretty much EVERY day from spring to autumn for 3 years. That is inconsiderate behaviour.

Nope, at the weekend that is early in the morning and anti-social in the extreme.


Chippy Minton Wrote:

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> ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > I'd far rather put up with some noise during

> the

> > daytime, than the racket my neighbours and

> their

> > child make at 7:30am every Saturday and Sunday

> > morning - without fail. That has a far greater

> > effect and the quality of my R&R come Monday

> > morning.

>

> 7.30am is the daytime.

And yet Southwark deem reasonable hours for DIY and building work to be 8.30am to 7.30pm.


There has to be a reasonable view taken on noise imo.


My neighbours below had a baby and it would cry at various times of day/ night (as babies do) and wake me at night. But I never deemed that a reason for complaint when some people would.


I live in a flat with neighbours above, below and around me. I have to accept that with that comes some noise, be it footsteps, washing machines etc. But if I am subjected to eccessive noise at 2am then I will have a word. Also if music is played so loud at any time of the day that my windows rattle (has happened in the past lol) then I'll definitely have a word. Fortunately I have a good relationship with all my neighbours and having a word is always easy.


Genuine noise issues though, always start as mild disturbance and end up driving the affected mad to the point that any noise whatsoever becomes too much to bear.

You're not really trying to compare building work noise with the noise made by one child are you?


Southwark Council deem "babies crying" and "children playing" (as well as footsteps, washing machines etc that you mention) as "everyday" noises and that noise from the ordinary use of residential premises cannot be considered a nuisance (let alone "anti-social in the extreme"!!)

No not trying to compare Chippy...that wasn't my point. My point was what you alude to, that some noises are acceptable as everyday noises....and furthermore, some noises are acceptable during the day but not during the night.


The party in the park may well have been excessively loud, but as a daytime one off, did that therefore make it an unnacceptable disturbance? My view is no....but if it happened every Sunday, then I probably would have a different view.


It's summer, and we live in a big city.....there has to be some give and take within reason I think.

This isn't the first time someone has posted that a child playing post 7.30am in the weekend is anti-social (in the EXTREME!).


As a considerate member of the community and a relatively new father, I'd be grateful if those posters could let me know how to ensure my child doesn't disturb their weekend lie-in. Close all the windows and sweat it out? Gimp gag? Ban on outdoor play, or just play fullstop?


Ideally I'd install a volume knob and adjust as appropriate, but the little tyke won't stay still long enough for me to perform the surgery.

Erm, as their parent this is surely your problem as you have chosen to be a parent as opposed to, say, a neighbour who hasn't?


Chillaxed Wrote:

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> This isn't the first time someone has posted that

> a child playing post 7.30am in the weekend is

> anti-social (in the EXTREME!).

>

> As a considerate member of the community and a

> relatively new father, I'd be grateful if those

> posters could let me know how to ensure my child

> doesn't disturb their weekend lie-in. Close all

> the windows and sweat it out? Gimp gag? Ban on

> outdoor play, or just play fullstop?

>

> Ideally I'd install a volume knob and adjust as

> appropriate, but the little tyke won't stay still

> long enough for me to perform the surgery.

I took your lead that effectively any time after sun up goes.


Chippy Minton Wrote:

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> Make up your mind ED - NAGAIUTB - where's 5am come

> from?? I thought it was 7.30am when you're

> subjected to anti social behaviour in the

> extreme?

>

> LOL at comparing a band practicing to a single

> child as well!!

Erm, nope...as a parent who has chosen to have a child, and therefore accepts that the child will sometimes make a noise when they play, it's not a problem at all.



ED - NAGAIUTB Wrote:

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> Erm, as their parent this is surely your problem

> as you have chosen to be a parent as opposed to,

> say, a neighbour who hasn't?

>

> Chillaxed Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > This isn't the first time someone has posted

> that

> > a child playing post 7.30am in the weekend is

> > anti-social (in the EXTREME!).

> >

> > As a considerate member of the community and a

> > relatively new father, I'd be grateful if those

> > posters could let me know how to ensure my

> child

> > doesn't disturb their weekend lie-in. Close

> all

> > the windows and sweat it out? Gimp gag? Ban

> on

> > outdoor play, or just play fullstop?

> >

> > Ideally I'd install a volume knob and adjust as

> > appropriate, but the little tyke won't stay

> still

> > long enough for me to perform the surgery.

Pugwash Wrote:

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> I think there is an Eid event on the Rye this

> weekend - that will probably upset a few people



The Eid event is not planned to have music, but will have a PA system for announcements (and possibly 'Call to Prayer') I wouldn't imagine the event should upset too many people.

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