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diable rouge

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For me it's the lack of recognition from the Gov that they've made mistakes, spinning yesterday's U-turn on the NHS surcharge as a sign of Johnson's 'strength', being typical.

This from former diplomat Peter Ricketts...


The Government would win so much respect if they admitted, just sometimes, that they had made a mistake and were correcting it. That would be a sign of strength not weakness.

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diable rouge Wrote:

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> For me it's the lack of recognition from the Gov

> that they've made mistakes, spinning yesterday's

> U-turn on the NHS surcharge as a sign of Johnson's

> 'strength', being typical.

> This from former diplomat Peter Ricketts...

>

> The Government would win so much respect if they

> admitted, just sometimes, that they had made a

> mistake and were correcting it. That would be a

> sign of strength not weakness.



100percent agreed. Good article in the spectator last week which outlined the three big mistake that have been made. And suggested it they were just admitted, rather than obfuscated, it would go a long way to buying cred.


Can't understand why they can't admit missteps. Everyone knows it's difficult...but don't piss on us and tell us it's raining.....

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diable rouge Wrote:

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> For me it's the lack of recognition from the Gov

> that they've made mistakes, spinning yesterday's

> U-turn on the NHS surcharge as a sign of Johnson's

> 'strength', being typical.

> This from former diplomat Peter Ricketts...

>

> The Government would win so much respect if they

> admitted, just sometimes, that they had made a

> mistake and were correcting it. That would be a

> sign of strength not weakness.


If corbyn had removed the surcharge it would be evidence of awesome he is.


Now that Boris has...it's a U-turn, or he's been 'forced" into it.....


Government has done something that the left wants, and the left still find a way to have a go...

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TheCat Wrote:

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> diable rouge Wrote:

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> If corbyn had removed the surcharge it would be

> evidence of awesome he is.

>

> Now that Boris has...it's a U-turn, or he's been

> 'forced" into it.....

>

> Government has done something that the left wants,

> and the left still find a way to have a go...



You don?t think that saying one thing one day and the opposite the next is a U

Turn?

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Eminent epidemiologist made to jump before he was pushed because press wanted some salacious gossip.


Scottish public servant does the right thing after not following her own public guidance and quits.


I don't care is Cummings jumps or is pushed, one or the other is right.

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TheCat Wrote:

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> diable rouge Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > For me it's the lack of recognition from the

> Gov

> > that they've made mistakes, spinning

> yesterday's

> > U-turn on the NHS surcharge as a sign of

> Johnson's

> > 'strength', being typical.

> > This from former diplomat Peter Ricketts...

> >

> > The Government would win so much respect if

> they

> > admitted, just sometimes, that they had made a

> > mistake and were correcting it. That would be a

> > sign of strength not weakness.

>

> If corbyn had removed the surcharge it would be

> evidence of awesome he is.

>

> Now that Boris has...it's a U-turn, or he's been

> 'forced" into it.....

>

> Government has done something that the left wants,

> and the left still find a way to have a go...


That's the culture of British politics

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Blah Blah Wrote:

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> Cummings has to resign, but he won't.


I don't think Johnson et al would let him resign even in the unlikely event he offered to, because they are complicit in that they knew what he had done, yet at the same time they kept telling the rest of us to do the opposite. It's also a big gamble by ministers to publicly back Cummings today, because if there's more to come out in the following days it would bring the Gov down...

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Guardian getting the correct question that the political correspondents seem unable to ask


"Among them, why is Cummings being excused for reportedly breaching lockdown rules due to needing help with childcare, when for the last nine weeks parents up and down the country have struggled without help while they suffered symptoms because they didn?t feel they could seek or accept help because it was against the rules? And if it was indeed fine all along, why wasn?t clear guidance on this subject given to the broader population?"

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So, what's it to you where he is or what he's doing, he's possibly still recovering, enjoying being a father supporting his partner, oh and don't forget it's a bank holiday weekend, so maybe he's at Chequers this weekend. Is that OK with you??
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No need for him to resign- 24th March from newschain.co.uk

'However, Dr Jenny Harries said at the daily Downing Street press briefing on March 24 that a small child could be considered ?vulnerable?.


?Clearly if you have adults who are unable to look after a small child, that is an exceptional circumstance,? she said.



?And if the individuals do not have access to care support ? formal care support ? or to family, they will be able to work through their local authority hubs.?'


I'm sure Boris will appear to talk to us about something soon. This is like when he didn't visit flood areas...the people who lived there didn't care as he is not an expert on floods

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There was a brother in law in London - support was available much closer to home. Rumours of a death in the family in Durham too. Finally his wife wrote a piece in the Spectator about what they dd when they suffered from COVID-19 - but nothing about Durham mentioned - why ?


Shapps didn't seem to be able to answer much - a lot of "I don't know" and tried hopefully to talk about an upgrade to the A66 or some such.

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