Discussion about Dulwich on BBC London on now

[dullwitch]

Vanessa Feltz is discussing "Is Dulwich the New Clapham?" On right now 94.9fm

[the-e-dealer]

Oh god Vanessa Felch. I'll give it a wide berth!

[LondonMix]

What does that even mean? Is she simply asking if its becoming a more affluent / desired area? Clapham (for better or worse) is really very different from Dulwich as it is far younger, busier and more built up.

[HelBel65]

I think she's great, and it was an interesting discussion. H

[jimbo1964]

Might listen later.. Any good points.

[Jeremy]

Shock horror, young families getting priced out of more desirable areas, etc. Is this really news to anybody at all??

[????]

To quote me from ages ago....

"I am old enough to remember when Clapham was a downmarket sh1thole, rather than the upmarket shithole it is nowadays"

[dullwitch]

HelBel65 Wrote:

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> I think she's great, and it was an interesting

> discussion. H

Me too.

The discussion wasn't really anything new, just thought people on here might like to know.:-)

[the-e-dealer]

Yes the lovely Vannessa!

[Pugwash]

I would hate to live in Clapham - cannot find anything attractive about living there.

[lane lover]

???? Wrote:

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> To quote me from ages ago....

>

> "I am old enough to remember when Clapham was a

> downmarket sh1thole, rather than the upmarket

> shithole it is nowadays"

I couldnt have put it better ...

[Jeremy]

Overall I probably prefer the "feel" of Dulwich, but Clapham has things going for it. Much better transport, events on Clapham Common, livelier nightlife, bigger houses, nicer architecture (in places), much bigger selection of shops and restaurants. On the downside, Clapham has quite a scruffy high street and an abundance of annoying wannabe toffs.

[jimbo1964]

Clapham Juction and the High Street are noticibly more urban and dirty than Dulwich. The Old Town is really nice. Great architecture, nice pubs etc.

[Otta]

I love the way people ignore the "underbelly" of Clapham.

[El Pibe]

Balham?

[the-e-dealer]

its going on a bit!

[lane lover]

Clapham Common is just a carbon copy of every high street in the UK. There are certain pockets of Clapham that are ok, but its mostly overvalued and overrated.

In terms of better transport, I disagree. The Northern line is a nightmare to travel on, and the trains at Clapham Junction are rammed in peak. While our trains are less frequent, the experience is far better than the tube or SW Trains.

ED is just nicer and far less "cluttered".

[the-e-dealer]

I wish we had the tube - to get to all parts of London. However we would be held to ransom by strikes and the frequent failures program the Tube operates. Also Tube outliers (?) are popular with Burglars!

[????]

Dislike. I Hate the Tube. Makes places transient. More community in places without the Tube - ie Stokey north of the river and why SE22 has a bit of continuity. Would ruin it down here.

[Otta]

You do realise this radio programme has just hiked house prices up a few grand.

[LondonMix]

Not once people read about the stabbing Otta. I wouldn't live in Clapaham and my friends who did live there in the early to mid-twenties all wanted to leave rather than being priced out. Its fine if you like that kind of thing or during a specific stage of life but I don't really think you can compare it to Dulwich.

I also hate the tube. My neighbours just moved here from Clapaham and say their commute is shorter now as they would have to let at least 2 trains go before they could get on one in the morning on the Northern line during the rush hour. Hopefully increasing house prices won't lead to lots of houses being converted to flats as our existing transport infrastructure would really suffer.

[Earl Aelfheah]

jimbo1964 Wrote:

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> Clapham Juction and the High Street are noticibly

> more urban

Clapham Junction and Northcote Road are in Battersea.

[jonny vantastic]

When I lived in clapham, a 15 year old boy was machine gunned to death in his own bedroom. Walked past the estate he lived in daily on my way to the tube and never once felt threatened by the area. Underbelly indeed.

Thing about clapham I felt in my years there was it was a playground for post grad middle class students on a stepping stone to a life in the country.

Or east dulwich it appears.

Glad I moved to east dulwich all those years ago!

If only we had a marks and Spencer or something...

[KidKruger]

"...my friends who did live there in the early to mid-twenties.."

Can you really remember 90 years ago ?! There would have been mainly outdoor toilets then and gas street lamps - right ?!