Spinster V Bacholer

[KalamityKel]

In modern day society many choose not to get married.

Some even refuse to committ to living together.

Having no personal objections to this myself (I'm a firm believer in having my own space) I do however have difficulties in understanding why it is more socially acceptable for men, say from the 30+ age range, to be carefree, single (with many "acquaintances") and generally simply a "bachelor" compared to the today "spinster". Again, I stress Why?

N.B. the today "bachelor" to mean unmarried men who do not have and are not actively seeking a spouse or other personal partner and "spinster" to mean a woman or girl of marriageable age who has never been married maybe for the same reasons

[Cassius]

In Italian an unmarried woman is a 'nubile' and an unmarried man is a 'celibe' - perhaps we ought to use those words instead!

[KalamityKel]

Of course I'm using these terms in todays non-mean ways :)

[david_carnell]

Hehehe....google image search gives the following:

Bachelor

Spinster:

http://www.takeourword.com/images/spinster.jpg

Maybe it's becaus secretly all men want to sleep around and be foot-loose and fancy free - they think they still have "it" no matter how old they are and therefore could have any women of their choosing. Most are more Bernard Manning than George Clooney however.

Whilst women are all desperate to get married and settle down to a life of shackled marital bliss. If this doesn't happen by 30 they turn into the above picture overnight.

Admin - can you re-size the top photo so he's not so goddamn scary with those perfect teeth and dreamy blue eyes!

* no probs, took an artistic licence to make him a bit tubbier though *

[Keef]

The word Spinster suggests mad old woman with 20 cats.

[Jah Lush]

Why? We're not in Italy are we? In English a nubile is a marriageable woman or a sexually attractive woman and celibe or a celebate is someone who doesn't have sex and I'm sure KK isn't suggesting that because some of us who might be single go without.

This goes back to the old age arguement - one incidentally that I've always found ridiculous - that if a man sleeps around he's a man of the world but if a woman does the same she's a slag.

[KalamityKel]

U so get me!

[Jah Lush]

Who me?

[KalamityKel]

no the gnome standing behind ya! :p

[Jah Lush]

You're sticking you're tongue out again KK.

[*Bob*]

Get your coat, Jah. You've pulled.

Don't forget to let the lads know how you get on when you're dahn the boozah.

[KalamityKel]

Don't go getting yaself excited I'm a happy "spinster" ;-)

[Cassius]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Why? We're not in Italy are we? In English a

> nubile is a marriageable woman or a sexually

> attractive woman and celibe or a celebate is

> someone who doesn't have sex and I'm sure KK isn't

> suggesting that because some of us who might be

> single go without.

I felt that as the English words were so unfair to women then perhaps we could get a bit of balance by using the Italian!

[Jah Lush]

Are you kidding? The Italian version is so archaic.

[Jah Lush]

KalamityKel Wrote:

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> Don't go getting yaself excited I'm a happy

> "spinster" ;-)

Ha! Don't flatter yourself.

[KalamityKel]

::o my heart is truly broken!

[Cassius]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Are you kidding? The Italian version is so

> archaic.

And spinster and bachelor are modern and cutting edge are they!

[KalamityKel]

meanings change with time tho... like "gay" ;-)

[david_carnell]

Or queer. Or faggot.

Other than borrowing from Italy, what better suggestion do you have for those of the female gender who decide of their own free will to remain single but may occasionally shag some bloke if they've drunk enough Lambrini on a night out! ;-)

[KalamityKel]

::o so one can't shag of ones own free will (the need to b intoxicated) but choose to remain single? I'm shocked!

[*Bob*]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> Other than borrowing from Italy, what better

> suggestion do you have for those of the female

> gender who decide of their own free will to remain

> single but may occasionally shag some bloke if

> they've drunk enough Lambrini on a night out! ;-)

I think the term you're looking for is a goer.

[Annasfield]

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[Domitianus]

I think everyone, male and female, should be called a "slag" and should behave accordingly! It's the only way out of this confusion!

[????]

er, it could be that actually most 'spinsters' as described by you are desperately seeking mr right, in a Bridget Jones type way, whereas most bachelors as described by you are having the Life of Riley, however I suspect that you and the PC world of EDF will call me a mysoginist git for suggesting that there is evean a miniscule grain of truth in my analysis...

[gerry]

I don't think single women are viewed as spinsters....they may be regarded more as predators or threat, hence their lack of invites to married couples dinner parties!!!! While we are on the topic, why are married men such predators as well, especially at dinner parties???