Dulwich Hospital Wasteland - New ED Carpark?

[theron]

North Dulwich is the closest station to the private schools and nurseries in dulwich, and you don't see a high demand for parking there..

[DJKillaQueen]

Affordable social housing would be a good idea. More need for that than allotments.

[BrandNewGuy]

I'm always tickled by the euphemistic phrase "affordable housing". Do you mean "cheap housing"? Because all housing is affordable to someone. If we assume you mean cheap housing, then Southwark PCT is unlilkely to see as good a return as it would get for... er... non-cheap housing. So wouldn't that be robbing health service Peter to pay social housing Paul?

[Huguenot]

The challenge with affordable housing is that unless it's unappealing housing it rapidly becomes unaffordable housing.

Housing will become affordable when we build enough for supply to outstrip demand, whilst simultaneously shutting down the social crime of buy-to-let.

Just spending more taxpayer cash or more housing benefit distorts a ridiculous market to an unworkable conclusion.

[DulwichFox]

Allotments do not generate revenue...

They also generally get neglected.

People get them and the novelty soon wears off when people find they are hard work.

Bit like people joining a Gym...

Fox.

[mastershake]

>>North Dulwich is the closest station to the private schools and nurseries in dulwich, and you don't see a high demand for parking there..

Because it has a CPZ surrounding it

[BrandNewGuy]

But with allotments, you kick people off who neglect their plot. And if Southwark PCT (as is/was) want a health benefit to the land use, allotments are excellent - good exercise, fresh food, and a sense of achievement and community etc.

[sillywoman]

mastershake Wrote:

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> >>North Dulwich is the closest station to the

> private schools and nurseries in dulwich, and you

> don't see a high demand for parking there..

>

> Because it has a CPZ surrounding it

Have we reached meme on this thread?

[DJKillaQueen]

With almost a million people in full time work needing HB because average private sector rents are higher than min wages can afford I would say that yes, there is a need for social housing. Every piece of data supports that.

[ram001]

i couldn't think of anything worse than council housing for that land.

[Jeremy]

ram001 Wrote:

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> i couldn't think of anything worse than council

> housing for that land.

OK, I'll bite. Why's that, then?

[Lowlander]

Jeremy Wrote:

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> BNG, Canada Water is an example of another zone 2

> station (better connected) with loads of available

> free car parking. Still, only a handful of people

> use it for commuting.

No free parking close by though - having just checked the shopping centre has a max 4 hour stay?

There's loads of free parking round Peckham Rye station and that's arguably better connected

[Lowlander]

mastershake Wrote:

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> >>North Dulwich is the closest station to the

> private schools and nurseries in dulwich, and you

> don't see a high demand for parking there..

>

> Because it has a CPZ surrounding it

You can still easily find an unrestricted space within a 5 minute walk.

[James Barber]

Hi Dulwihcfox,

Huge waiting list for allotments. We need more. But such a valuable site is never likely to be turned over to allotments.

Hi DJKQ,

The site is owned by the Dept of Health. Their plan is to use a PPP to finance a new health facility funded by sale of the remianing land. Most likely for private housing.

But we need at least a new Primary school. We have an aging population. Such a big site 27,000m2 should be able to accomodate all these needs.

Hi Hugenot,

I agree in principle but the London Plan see's an extra 2 millions residents over the next 10-20 years taking Lnodon from 8m to 10m residents.

Where should we build 1+ million extra homes just to stand still let alone get to grips with unaffordable house prices?

[eastdulwichhenry]

Why the assumption that people want a CPZ in East Dulwich? If I recall the survey last year correctly only Derwent Grove voted in favour of having one. Even St Francis Road, right next to the station, was not in favour. Kind of suggests this drive-to-the-station brigade are not really the nuisance people imagine.