Bus stop outside east Dulwich picture house

[sweetgirl]

Is open!!

[DulwichFox]

Yaaaaayyyy

[Spartacus]

Funny that

Reopened just after the LTN consultation....

If I was suspicious....

But brilliant news none the less

[Earl Aelfheah]

They?re removing the extended pavement on the other side by the look o things. Presumably to be replaced by parked cars. Real shame. Not sure why Southwark wouldn?t have made this permanent. It?s very narrow outside the cafes / food shops without it.

[heartblock]

An extended pavement would be great on that side, would make sitting outside at the restaurants much nicer.

[northernmonkey]

what a shame they're removing the barriers without permanently removing the parking outside the shops.

Though for those trying the usual conspiracy theory as to timing, seems that its just that the 19th was the end of mandated social distancing so the council no longer has obligations under those provisions.

[Earl Aelfheah]

It?s really busy with people there at weekends. All giving way for 5 or 6 parked cars.

[DulwichFox]

Remove extended Pavement and put down Yellow Lines to stop Parking.

Sorted..

Anything else to sort out. World Poverty ?

Foxy.

[Spartacus]

I guess the parking depends on factors

Business owners possibly want it back as it allows people to pop in and collect heavy or bulky goods

Diners don't want it at night so they can sit outside on a Summer's evening

Pedestrians are possibly indifferent , some for , some against

Cyclists ... who knows

[Earl Aelfheah]

I dunno, I'm a pedestrian and it gets really busy outside that row of restaurants / shops even with the extended pavement. I would like it kept personally. Can't be the only pedestrian. I would be surprised if the businesses want the pavement narrowed there too tbh.

[Bic Basher]

I'm another one who would have preferred to have kept the extended pavement at the expense of a bus stop that is very close to the one outside the post office.

[Earl Aelfheah]

The parked cars that have replaced the extended pavement are exactly the same width. The pavement just replaced the parking. There is no reason why we couldn't have had a wider pavement and had the bus stop in operation.

[Spartacus]

rahrahrah Wrote:

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> The parked cars that have replaced the extended

> pavement are exactly the same width. The pavement

> just replaced the parking. There is no reason why

> we couldn't have had a wider pavement and had the

> bus stop in operation.

That's a really important question concerning why it was closed in the first place...

[spider69]

The same question could be asked of Rye Lane. But that is still closed unless you apply for permission for a cricket match

[Sue]

I'm very surprised (oh OK maybe I'm not) that at a time of rapidly increasing infections in Southwark the council should have done this.

Presumably they didn't have to.

Surely the reasons for doing it in the first place haven't changed at all (apart from some people now being vaccinated)?

It's convenient for me to have the bus stop back, but I'd still rather they had kept it closed until the Covid situation had improved considerably.

[sweetgirl]

Quite sad actually

Dulwich residents are never happy

[Earl Aelfheah]

I take it back. The line of parked cars actually extend out further than the pavement extension did. Why did they close the bus stop in the first place?

[Lebanums]

I'm pleased the bus stop is now open, better accessibility for those with restricted mobility. The pavement across the road is already wide, it is simply that some restaurants have taken up the space with tables & chairs. The fact that cars can be parked outside the shops encourages business from outside ED (silver linings).

[Earl Aelfheah]

At weekends there are large queues there for the Ice Cream Shop, the fishmongers and the cheese shop, as well as queues for the bakery. Where before there would have been 20-30 people, there will now be 4 or 5 cars. It seems like an odd use of space and I don't imagine for a moment that it'll increase business.

[Cyclemonkey]

Do lots of people drive to East Dulwich of a Saturday to do their shopping and require parking right outside?

Lordship Lane to me seems the typicl lower tier shopping street that is easily accesible on foot by locals.

[Lebanums]

There are many people who visit outside ED, especially for shops like Roullier White & Mrs Robinson. It was the whole argument when CPZ was being introduced.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Cars prioritised over pedestrians. Lordship Lane doesn?t need more cars.

[Earl Aelfheah]

COVID-19 hasn?t gone away and we need to continue to make more space on our pavements for social distancing, to help keep everyone safe.?

Southwark Council?s statement re. Rye Lane, made this week.

[first mate]

Yes, a huge deal was made about that as a driver for CPZ, people driving and parking just to get a latte and so on. On the other hand, when M&S was proposed and there were concerns about cars parking up to do shopping etc.. we were told that most people did their shopping using public transport, walking or using bicycles and there would be no issue with cars out of the area.

Amazing how these two opposing narratives were juggled by the Council and planning, almost at the same time!

Lebanums Wrote:

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> There are many people who visit outside ED,

> especially for shops like Roullier White & Mrs

> Robinson. It was the whole argument when CPZ was

> being introduced.

[Cyclemonkey]

But do all those people drive? I mean I go to a lot of different areas in London to shop and socialise. I don't ever feel the need to drive, due to these things called buses and trains that we have a good amount of.