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was it really a good idea to close our police station in Lordship Lane, it seems the crime rate has shot up around dulwich, now a stabbing and mugging in one day, burglaries on the increase,another attempted child abduction nearby, do you think criminals look on Dulwich as an easy target now, I dont suppose m.p's would consider a small pay cut or reduction in perks to help us keep our police station open, or perhaps we could save some money by getting ride of some of our so called council employees, who are continually "on leave", "away from their desks" "on a trainingday" or whatever else they do apart from work and be available, apart from the human cost,lets see the price of property this time next year in Dulwich.
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susiq Wrote:

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> I dont suppose m.p's would consider a

> small pay cut or reduction in perks to help us

> keep our police station open, or perhaps we could

> save some money by getting ride of some of our so

> called council employees


I don't suppose you'd consider asking the government to raise taxes across the board to pay for stuff like this? Why is it when people want the government to spend more money, their ideas for paying for it never involves they themselves putting their hand in their pocket?

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steveo Wrote:

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> Would the proximity of a police station have

> prevented the stabbing?



Good Question..


Would the proximity of Any police station prevent Any crime committed.


Let's close ALL the Police Staions.


We could save the Authorities. Millions..no Zillions..


Fox

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I think the OP's post is a little OTT but the Shawbury Rd mugging/stabbing looks less than funny - especially if it was an opportunistic 'snatch and stab' as this police appeal suggests rather than, as some others seemed to think, a row between two people who knew each other.


http://content.met.police.uk/Appeal/Robbery-on-Shawbury-Road/1400015905925/1257246745782?scope_id=1257246764302

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I'm not not sure a closure is ever flagged up as one of those "Hey, here's a good idea - let's close the Police station" It's more a case of economics and logistics. It just feels sh*t when one closes in a community - like we're being abandoned.


But the reality is that the location of the station doesn't stop or prevent the crimes committed on that patch. See Carter Street in Walworth as an example. NatWest on Walworth Road was one of the most robbed in London - less than a stones throw away.


The key thing is Police presence and availability. Can the police and their team attend within the required time at a crime scene.


If you know the answers then do share, as for MP's wages-perks and property prices in Dulwich - I predict an upward swing.


As for all the other issues, I personally find it easier to break each incident down and rationalise them individually - so not feel under siege from it all. And what you read is important, some publications are rather angled toward the 'IT'S ALL GOING TO THE DOGS'


Armageddon is someway off tho.

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The last time I got on the night bus it was very cold. Having waited for it for an hour, the cops descended on it at Victoria and kept us waiting 45 minutes. An old bloke got on with a violin in a polythene bag, talked to himself and chain smoked Bensons, and the young chap next to me sagged over, put his head on my shoulder, murmured something and died.


I think this might be worth its own thread.

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The presence of a police station and neighborhood policing are entirely separate issues surely?


You don't need a station to have a bobby on the beat.


Aside from that my understanding is that having bobbies on the beat has no impact upon actual crime, only on the perception of security. It's a PR exercise, and an expensive one at that.


The idea that the closure of the station caused criminals to target the area endows them with far too much intelligence and forward planning.


Anyway, we had stabbings and shootings in ED when the station was open. Sudden bursts of crime are rarely down to increases in criminality, but usually down to spree activity from a very small number of individuals.


I remember a couple of years ago that of the 1,600 crimes on the Bakerloo line in one year, something like 1,300 were committed by the same 6 teenage petty criminals. They were all mates, and fed off the thrill of sharing their escalating crimes.

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