crime

[susiq]

was it really a good idea to close our police station in Lordship Lane, it seems the crime rate has shot up around dulwich, now a stabbing and mugging in one day, burglaries on the increase,another attempted child abduction nearby, do you think criminals look on Dulwich as an easy target now, I dont suppose m.p's would consider a small pay cut or reduction in perks to help us keep our police station open, or perhaps we could save some money by getting ride of some of our so called council employees, who are continually "on leave", "away from their desks" "on a trainingday" or whatever else they do apart from work and be available, apart from the human cost,lets see the price of property this time next year in Dulwich.

[????]

Did you read this in the Daily Mail?

[woodrot]

kill me now please

[LauraHW]

Punctuation please! What a load of rubbish! Exactly how is a perceived increase in crime the fault of council workers? Agree - I suspect the work of a daily mail journo.

[KalamityKel]

Indeed what a load of rubbish - The Mail has nothing to do with expressing ones opinions/thoughts whether you agree with them or not (of course unless referenced to such literature!) Everyone is entitled to do so, again, if you agree with them or not.

*shrugs*

[RosieH]

I thought the OP a very perceptive post.

It's champagne pinkos like you lot that have sent this country to the dogs. If the Lords didn't eat subsidised swan for lunch, you can bet your bottom dollar we'd see more bobbies on the beat.

Let's march on westminster.

[susiq]

did you read it in the mail, punctuation please, how clever of you both, what wit.

[Lowlander]

Ah! It's you who writes the regular spoof column in Private Eye. Keep up the good work :-)

[Loz]

susiq Wrote:

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> I dont suppose m.p's would consider a

> small pay cut or reduction in perks to help us

> keep our police station open, or perhaps we could

> save some money by getting ride of some of our so

> called council employees

I don't suppose you'd consider asking the government to raise taxes across the board to pay for stuff like this? Why is it when people want the government to spend more money, their ideas for paying for it never involves they themselves putting their hand in their pocket?

[maxxi]

And pigeons. They are everywhere and are just getting bolder and bolder.

[steveo]

Would the proximity of a police station have prevented the stabbing?

[DulwichFox]

steveo Wrote:

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> Would the proximity of a police station have

> prevented the stabbing?

Good Question..

Would the proximity of Any police station prevent Any crime committed.

Let's close ALL the Police Staions.

We could save the Authorities. Millions..no Zillions..

Fox

[woodrot]

I am not surwe who I hate more, chold molester burgular muggers or council workers.

best string em both up. and get the coppers tooled up.

[maxxi]

I think the OP's post is a little OTT but the Shawbury Rd mugging/stabbing looks less than funny - especially if it was an opportunistic 'snatch and stab' as this police appeal suggests rather than, as some others seemed to think, a row between two people who knew each other.

http://content.met.police.uk/Appeal/Robbery-on-Shawbury-Road/1400015905925/1257246745782?scope_id=1257246764302

[giggirl]

What are your views on hanging? And full stops?

[Worker]

Yay, an easy target has posted an OTT post, let's get her!

[Annette Curtain]

I'm not not sure a closure is ever flagged up as one of those "Hey, here's a good idea - let's close the Police station" It's more a case of economics and logistics. It just feels sh*t when one closes in a community - like we're being abandoned.

But the reality is that the location of the station doesn't stop or prevent the crimes committed on that patch. See Carter Street in Walworth as an example. NatWest on Walworth Road was one of the most robbed in London - less than a stones throw away.

The key thing is Police presence and availability. Can the police and their team attend within the required time at a crime scene.

If you know the answers then do share, as for MP's wages-perks and property prices in Dulwich - I predict an upward swing.

As for all the other issues, I personally find it easier to break each incident down and rationalise them individually - so not feel under siege from it all. And what you read is important, some publications are rather angled toward the 'IT'S ALL GOING TO THE DOGS'

Armageddon is someway off tho.

[maxxi]

Annette Curtain Wrote:

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> Armageddon is someway off tho.

But you can get there on the N176.

[woodrot]

maxxi Wrote:

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> > Armageddon is someway off tho.

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> But you can get there on the N176.

the horror, the horror

[Annette Curtain]

Who gets a night bus anyway !

Next thing you know, peg sellers will be hauling Caravans made from lolly sticks up the main drag.

[steveo]

The last time I got on the night bus it was very cold. Having waited for it for an hour, the cops descended on it at Victoria and kept us waiting 45 minutes. An old bloke got on with a violin in a polythene bag, talked to himself and chain smoked Bensons, and the young chap next to me sagged over, put his head on my shoulder, murmured something and died.

I think this might be worth its own thread.

[????]

On the chewy blotters again Steveo?

[steveo]

OK, he wasn't really dead; I moved his head when I got off the bus and he made a little gasping sound.

And so did I

[LauraHW]

You're right - the op raises some good points in relation to closure of police station. But how exactly is this the fault of council workers? I'm a bit sick of public sector worker bashing.

[Huguenot]

The presence of a police station and neighborhood policing are entirely separate issues surely?

You don't need a station to have a bobby on the beat.

Aside from that my understanding is that having bobbies on the beat has no impact upon actual crime, only on the perception of security. It's a PR exercise, and an expensive one at that.

The idea that the closure of the station caused criminals to target the area endows them with far too much intelligence and forward planning.

Anyway, we had stabbings and shootings in ED when the station was open. Sudden bursts of crime are rarely down to increases in criminality, but usually down to spree activity from a very small number of individuals.

I remember a couple of years ago that of the 1,600 crimes on the Bakerloo line in one year, something like 1,300 were committed by the same 6 teenage petty criminals. They were all mates, and fed off the thrill of sharing their escalating crimes.