Very Old Pic (Apparently it's an East Dulwich house)

[jimbo1964]

I just discovered this photo. Apparently it's an East Dulwich house. Looks like it's on a hill. I wonder if it still exists? Can we find it?

[Penguin68]

The house is double fronted, which narrows things down, and I would guess is set back 20-25 ft from the pavement. This excludes quite a few ED streets. The hill suggestion is supported by the house next door, which looks to be set somewhat higher - the angle is problematical but it looks more like terracing or a semi (are there double fronted semis?) than a detached house.

[alice]

looks like one of half houses on underhill opposite rydale

[Huggers]

the road it is in may have been widened since then.

[jimbo1964]

I was thinking of those Underhill houses. I'll look later.

[DulwichFox]

The clothes look pre war... ??

Foxy

[fleur]

I agree with Alice. The angle of the road looks like Underhill.

[DJKillaQueen]

It's definitely Edwardian from the outfits. I'd hazard a guess of around 1900-1910.

[indiepanda]

fleur Wrote:

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> I agree with Alice. The angle of the road looks

> like Underhill.

Looks like it to me too - and I live in one of those houses. They were double fronted homes in those days - were split into half houses later.

[tllm2]

Really - I always thought the half houses were built that way - didn't realise that they halved later.

[Laur]

It's definately one of those on Underhill Road, opposite Honor Oak Mansions, but which one.....

[Vickster]

I used to live at 193. It looks exactly like my old house. I guess they all look roughly the same though. I also thought they were originally built as half houses though

[indiepanda]

tllm2 Wrote:

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> Really - I always thought the half houses were

> built that way - didn't realise that they halved

> later.

I think some in some parts of ED might have been but am sure when I looked at the deeds for mine it suggested they'd been split later. The fact that I still share a water supply with my neighbour would seem to suggest they weren't originally built seperately. Plus the internal front doors are badly placed if they were designed that way - my dad ended up taking mine off the day the removal men brought all my stuff out of storage as when open they block the entrance to the stairs.

[indiepanda]

Incidentally, I can see the same black and white checkerboard tiles in the doorway that I have in mine.

[indiepanda]

PS if you watch this from 9 seconds in to 14 you can see some of those Underhill Rd houses

[Freddy1929]

indiepanda Wrote:

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> PS if you watch this from 9 seconds in to 14 you

> can see some of those Underhill Rd houses

>

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detail

> page&v=4wmmuX6iCyo

They have their windows open! what does that mean? Temp.is above freezing.......not filmed recently then?

[the-e-dealer]

Playfield Crescent?

[indiepanda]

Freddy1929 Wrote:

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> indiepanda Wrote:

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> > PS if you watch this from 9 seconds in to 14

> you

> > can see some of those Underhill Rd houses

> >

> >

> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detail

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> > page&v=4wmmuX6iCyo

>

>

> They have their windows open! what does that mean?

> Temp.is above freezing.......not filmed recently

> then?

Lol, no, was filmed last year - late spring from recollection - was to promote Freeview's summer of sport. Definitely no reason to open windows recently.... hard pressed some days to want to open the door!

[silverfox]

Does the reflection in the middle window show the gable end of a house at 90 degrees? It looks like a Dutch Gable at a guess. Tintagel Rd looking up Lordship Lane?

[DJKillaQueen]

Would be really cool if we could identify the house...and then look at the census for the period and possibly identify and date the people in the photo.

[jimbo1964]

I'm convinced it's Underhill opposite Rydeale. It's on a steep hill. Would be interesting to check the census.

[Laur]

I agree the black and white tiles as you enter the house are the same on all those houses and above the window the curvy stone carving(just barely visible) is the same.

[Vik]

My money's on The Ryedale bit of Underhill too. Flicking between Streetview and the photo, they are identical.

[Penguin68]

Because of the way the land was parcelled (in small lots) in Underhill (down, probably, almost as far as Barry) there is a very eclectic range of architectural styles - normally no more than 5-10 houses in a row before they change. So if it is Underhill (I think that's very likely too, and around Rydeale) it should be pretty easy to spot the house as being no more than one or two possibilities (assuming no subsequent bomb damage).

If you 'street view' on Google Maps 197 Underhill Road (now split into two) it looks almost exactly right (as do the houses up and down the street - but these have more stuff growing in the front garden which blocks the view somewhat)

Edited to say - cross posted with Vik

[Burbage]

silverfox Wrote:

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> Does the reflection in the middle window show the

> gable end of a house at 90 degrees? It looks like

> a Dutch Gable at a guess. Tintagel Rd looking up

> Lordship Lane?

No. It's clearly a Zeppelin, possibly on the way to Streatham, which would put the date a little later (1915/6?). There again, it might be not be unrelated to the stain running from the top of the picture. Sadly, colour photography having not been invented at the time, it's impossible to tell just by looking, but my money's on Bovril.