If Paolo Di Canio Had Said...

[Vicanna]

...'I'm a communist. Not a racist' in 2005, would he have escaped the ire and condemnation of the largely liberal press following his appointment as manager of Sunderland AFC, in spite of many more people being murdered in the name of communism under Stalin than those who were murdered by the Squradrismo under Mussolini and Himmler's SS units combined?

[red devil]

PDC has never said he was a racist.

As for numbers, a total red herring. The Nazis and their allies would've carried on killing a lot more had they been given the chance...

[uncleglen]

He did a Nazi salute at one time and got a fine for it. David Miliband has resigned as v.c. of Sunderland in protest at his appointment. Money sure does talk much louder than anything else!

[El Pibe]

failing to avoid the wriggling worm of trolling, and avoiding the question as such (ok I won't, the answer is yes) I do think there's a pretty poor understanding of the term fascism full stop in this country, we tend to conflate alot of things with nazism and create a sort of miasmic shibboleth that hinders rather than fosters understanding.

Likewise any understanding of communism is immediately undermined by the mention of the antigodwin 'Stalin'.

[El Pibe]

Miliband resigned because he's tilting for a position in the United Nations and is avoiding any possible hint of a hint of controversy that could stain his CV.

[Huguenot]

As he pointed out, he's a footballer not a politician.

I'm sure he has very little idea of what fascism means, and probably made his statement based on a loose jumble of ideas about authoritarianism and national pride being a good way to sort out Italy's disheveled political process.

Given that the party that won 25% of the vote is refusing to govern, who can blame him for getting frustrated?

I'm not aware that the 'liberal' press had any more to say about it than the Daily Hate - so it strikes me that the premise of your question is wrong.

Secondly, the purges you describe we're Stalinist, not communist. I'm sure if he had announced he was Stalinist that he would have achieved similar coverage (as a 'communist' he would probably have been considered an ineffectual fool rather than genocidal).

[Huguenot]

Cross post

[woodrot]

jesus fucking christ

surely you masterered the troll skillz enough to produce something a little better than this ?

[*Bob*]

From the team that brought you 'retards', 'mongs' and 'disabled kids' - comes this cracking new effort.

Stay tuned.. Watch this space.. Etc

[edcam]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> From the team that brought you 'retards', 'mongs'

> and 'disabled kids' - comes this cracking new

> effort.

>

>

> Stay tuned.. Watch this space.. Etc

Is that an "Urban" space Bob? Sorry - "UrbSpa"...

[Mick Mac]

red devil Wrote:

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> PDC has never said he was a racist.

> As for numbers, a total red herring. The Nazis and

> their allies would've carried on killing a lot

> more had they been given the chance...

I think the OP meant if PDC had said "I'm a communinst, not a racist" instead of saying "I'm a fascist, not a racist" how would he have been treated, ie the OP suggests he would have gotten off more lightly if stating he was a communist rather than a fascist. Or would he?

[Annette Curtain]

Oh not again...

Too far too quick

As I said before, I quite like trolls (good ones) and this one was a very good one, once-upon-a-time

BUT jeez H, it's a bit samey no ?

[Vicanna]

How does inquiring upon the reaction of a position alternative to the one he stated constitute trolling? Provoking thought, yes. But hardly provoking antagonism. Some of you must've lead very sheltered lives.

[Annette Curtain]

Because from past experiences there's an expectation of an onslaught & diatribe.

Think Icelandic volcanos - they'll blow at some point, only when is the question.

So for now, as you were!

"Tum te tum - what, me ?"

[Vicanna]

What are you talking about?

[malumbu]

There were a lot of people who supported the far right in Germany, Italy and Spain before the war (WWII not the Britpop war). That included some of the Royal Family (not sure whether they still do but Harry gave a good impression).

Dame Maggie Smith was also known to state her support of fascists as recent as 1969. I didn't see anything about that in the tabloids.

Of course I am sure that National Socialism isn't the far right.

I suggest we all regularly watch Cabaret - not necessarily because it is set at the time that support was rising for Hitler but because it is an excellent film. I do recall a young PDC singing Tomorrow belongs to me, though.

More importantly it would be quite fun if Sunderland went down.

[????]

....er David Bowie, Eric Clapton, anyone? I think very talented individuals often make stoopid remarks/comments outside of their area of brilliance....

[????]

The Prime Of Mr Di Canio certainly has a ring Malambu

[malumbu]

Good spot ????, althought there is also a Clapton link as well. But thought you's make more of Cabaret, old Chum.