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GMav

GMav

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Hi All

Transport for London are proposing to remove our route 12 Bus Dulwich Library - Oxford Circus i have just started a petition to try to convince them that they need to keep the 12 Bus route please see attached for link to petition - please pass onto as many people as you can or print off page, we have less than six weeks before the consultation period ends


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George

Nigello

Nigello

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We have lots of buses, Asset. We have three routes along nearly all of LL, then the smaller routes (P4, 485, P13, P12 etc.) and the Rye Lane routes down to E and C and beyond.

I agree it is not a good idea to take away this route but to pretend we don't have a decent if not good number of routes is wrong.

BlueLeaf

BlueLeaf

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It looks like it will be replaced by 148 according to this article: https://www.mylondon.news/lifestyle/travel/london-bus-routes-tfl-plans-24107649


"After Camberwell Road, Medlar Street, the 148 would turn left and follow the old route of the 12 to Dulwich Library instead of terminating at Camberwell Green"


So we will still have the route in some form though I wonder what the frequency will be.

Nigello

Nigello

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The one-four-eight will pick up the slack. TfL is a costly thing to run so I can understand where the thinking is on this. I do think there are too many buses at certain times, resulting in bunching and extended journey times, which is good for noone and not the environment, either - static or near static diesel buses end to end is not a good look for TfL which is keen to burnish its green(ish) credentials.
Nigello

Nigello

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BlueLeaf Wrote:

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> By the way, it may be more effective to complete

> the official survey:

> https://haveyoursay.tfl.gov.uk/busreview


Agreed - waffling and whining on here is never likely to effect positive change.

Jacqui5254

Jacqui5254

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Mabaker Wrote:

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> What's not good for the environment is having a

> reduced bus service making the car more

> attractive. What about those people who have

> mobility issues and find it difficult to hop on

> and off buses, let alone to keep changing along

> the route. Petition signed


This.


Petition signed also.

NewWave

NewWave

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Nigello Wrote:

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> We have lots of buses, Asset. We have three routes

> along nearly all of LL, then the smaller routes

> (P4, 485, P13, P12 etc.) and the Rye Lane routes

> down to E and C and beyond.

> I agree it is not a good idea to take away this

> route but to pretend we don't have a decent if not

> good number of routes is wrong.

These routes are useless for those of us who work in the Central west end.

The 176 more often than not seems to stop short at Waterloo and those of us who work in retail and catering rely heavily on the 12 to get us to and from work at a price we can afford.

NewWave

NewWave

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Mabaker Wrote:

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> What's not good for the environment is having a

> reduced bus service making the car more

> attractive. What about those people who have

> mobility issues and find it difficult to hop on

> and off buses, let alone to keep changing along

> the route. Petition signed


Amen to this!

NewWave

NewWave

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Cauliflowerear Wrote:

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> DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> The 12 is

> > iconic too.

>

> Iconic? No it isnt, catch yourself on. Its just

> another bus that hardly anyone outside of East

> Dulwich really cares about. Once you are a few

> stops up the road to Peckham, there are loads of

> other buses going the same way you can jump on,

> which is probably exactly why its getting canned.


No everyone wants to have to change busses to get to work...it means paying twice and what's more holding down a job in the current climate is stressful enough without it taking me over an hour and two busses to get to an from work.

i daresay you work from home and have a nice 40k+PA job..its the 'little people' like myself that have to worry about public transport and not clocking in late.

JohnL

JohnL

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Cauliflowerear Wrote:

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> DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> The 12 is

> > iconic too.

>

> Iconic? No it isnt, catch yourself on. Its just

> another bus that hardly anyone outside of East

> Dulwich really cares about. Once you are a few

> stops up the road to Peckham, there are loads of

> other buses going the same way you can jump on,

> which is probably exactly why its getting canned.


Actually 12 goes via Camberwell whilst the 63s, 78s and 343s don't.

Spartacus

Spartacus

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KidKruger Wrote:

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> I just saw a no.12 going South down Lordship

> Lane.

> Is it re-routed as part of the proposed changes ?

> (apols if I've missed something)


Either the drivers been to Megan's on route or the bus is in the way to the start point at the library 🤔

goldilocks

goldilocks

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Just on this idea of paying twice - hopper fares mean that you can get on unlimited busses within 1 hour and only pay once. It has actually really helped with bus travel for me, especially on routes like vauxhall to ED - means can take a 36 and then change at Camberwell for the multiple options there for example.



NewWave Wrote:

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> Cauliflowerear Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

> > DulwichBorn&Bred Wrote:

> >

> --------------------------------------------------

>

> > -----

> > The 12 is

> > > iconic too.

> >

> > Iconic? No it isnt, catch yourself on. Its just

> > another bus that hardly anyone outside of East

> > Dulwich really cares about. Once you are a few

> > stops up the road to Peckham, there are loads

> of

> > other buses going the same way you can jump on,

> > which is probably exactly why its getting

> canned.

>

> No everyone wants to have to change busses to get

> to work...it means paying twice and what's more

> holding down a job in the current climate is

> stressful enough without it taking me over an hour

> and two busses to get to an from work.

> i daresay you work from home and have a nice

> 40k+PA job..its the 'little people' like myself

> that have to worry about public transport and not

> clocking in late.

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