Lime bikes (and other hire companies) left in middle of pavement

[Earl Aelfheah]

Create on street parking bays (don't put them on the pavement) . Have a couple on every street to start with. Then work with the companies to fine those who don't park them in a marked bay.

[Earl Aelfheah]

If every street had a couple of spaces with electric bikes available, perhaps we could lose some of the many cars littering the place.

[Bic Basher]

If you think ED is bad for Lime Bikes, there were FOUR dumped outside Sainsbury's outside Forest Hill this afternoon and another couple by Pizza Hut.

A couple of weeks ago, another half dozen were left outside the Job Centre on Dartmouth Road.

[ab29]

Saw it on my way from Forest Hill station. And this crap has now entered Dulwich Park as well. It must be banned, its nothing else but producing and scattering even more rubbish around, as if there was not enough already!

[malumbu]

Anyone used one? I am sure that there are many responsible users and it would be good to hear from one of them.

Personally I have bigger things to rant about such as climate change. If e bikes are one of the solutions I'm happy to put up with some teething problems.

E scooters also have a role to play but difficult to integrate on our current road network.

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

The bikes are very good. They're also not going away.

The fix is actually easy: require them to chained to railings, lampposts, bike stands etc. The problem is they're just left in the middle of pavements etc. Many of the existing models have integrated locks but users don't need to use them.

[ab29]

Get rid of bike & scooter companies who only care about profit = less rubbish, more safe space for pedestrians and better for enviroment

[Spartacus]

Personally I have bigger things to rant about such as climate change. If e bikes are one of the solutions I'm happy to put up with some teething problems.

 

Making it dangerous for the blind, elderly or disabled is not exactly "teething problems" 🤔

[malumbu]

And a third of the Pakistani population being subject to biblical flooding us not a bigger issue?

If you are truly worried about the blind, disabled and elderly's welfare then surely ban everything that moves.

[Forevergreen]

Okay I understand you are annoyed about bikes on the pavement. What about bins ? It is just so selfish and disgusting.

[Rockets]

The problem with the bikes is that the business model is built around the ability to pick one up and then drop it wherever you want - the same issue of littering is being experienced in every city that has deployed them globally.

[beigemartin]

In some places it's not an issue though. I was in another, more modern, city with them for a while and there were wide pavements and grass verges and they didn't seem to impact pedestrians. We don't have those luxuries in our old city.

[Earl Aelfheah]

In some places it's not an issue though. I was in another, more modern, city with them for a while and there were wide pavements and grass verges and they didn't seem to impact pedestrians. We don't have those luxuries in our old city.

 

It's not an issue in some parts of London (City and Camden for example), where they've marked out on street parking bays and worked with the companies to ensure that there are fines / bans for those who don't use them. The problem here is that as much as people don't like them on the pavement, many would not like them on the road either (loss of parking). Personally, I would make sure that every street had at least one space for a car club car, and one or two for hire bikes - on the road (not the pavement).

[Wreath-theif]

Middle of the pavement?

I’ve just found one in Dulwich woods!

[first mate]

RX3,

Am I right in thinking that Lime has hooked up with LCC? It is a California based tech company, I believe?

Can you say how many fines have been issued against Lime bike users in Camden to date? How does the fining system work?

 

In some places it's not an issue though. I was in another, more modern, city with them for a while and there were wide pavements and grass verges and they didn't seem to impact pedestrians. We don't have those luxuries in our old city.

 

It's not an issue in some parts of London (City and Camden for example), where they've marked out on street parking bays and worked with the companies to ensure that there are fines / bans for those who don't use them. The problem here is that as much as people don't like them on the pavement, many would not like them on the road either (loss of parking). Personally, I would make sure that every street had at least one space for a car club car, and one or two for hire bikes - on the road (not the pavement).

[first mate]

I forgot my phone or would have posted a picture. Junction of Barry Rd next to pedestrian crossing and entrance to Peckham Rye Park.

A jumble/ heap of around 20 Urban Forest hire bikes strewn around the pavement. Unsightly, a hazard and just plain wrong.

[Nigello]

Take a picture and @ the firms involved. Get as many people as you can to RT or like it. Also @ ROSPA/disability organisations/MP etc.

[first mate]

Rah,

There are already cycle stands there. How, precisely does marked bays or more room stop people leaving the bikes laying around on the ground? I think you know that it won't. It certainly does not make a difference to how Lime bikes are left on Lordship Lane.

Even in the area described, across from Peckham Rye, there is plenty of room to place the bikes, one just gets the impression it is too much trouble for the user. Easier to leave it lying on the pavement, wherever they choose to dismount.

I understand that your argument for marked bays is simply another way to achieve your agenda of forcing car users out, but I really do not think it addresses the issue here.

[Administrator]

FYI - moved a few posts here from the LTN thread to avoid it veering off-topic.

[first mate]

Thanks Admin, good call and my bad for posting in LTNs.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Every street should have one or two parking spaces on the street marked out for hire bikes.

Or the bikes could just be parked on the street like motorbikes.

 

Yep, or that.

[first mate]

But on current evidence the wouldn't be parked like motorbikes, they'd just be left lying in the street. You see the difference is people with motorbikes mostly care about the equipment. It seems many using hire bikes do not give a fig.

[malumbu]

There are 72 posts on this, maybe two thirds complaining. Have any of you done anything to address this perceived problem? My starting point would be to write to my MP. At least you would get the government's position, and it would make a nice change for them to think about something apart from wrecking the economy.

[first mate]

Is that another attempt to shut down an angle that doesn't suit Mal?

[Dogkennelhillbilly]

Even in the area described, across from Peckham Rye, there is plenty of room to place the bikes, one just gets the impression it is too much trouble for the user.

 

If there are multiple bikes, let alone 20, they haven't been left there by a USER. They've been left there by the company itself, which periodically drops off bikes so they're spread around town. Unfortunately these guys can't be bothered to spend more than 3 seconds throwing them out the back of a transit van. Urban Forest are particularly bad - worse than Lime now.