Jellybeanz Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 Just to warn everyone to take care, woman had her card stolen out of her hand last Saturday lunchtime... Couple working together - one saying "oh it wouldn't take my card either" aim to confuse, snatch card and woman waits few mins then also runs off. Terrible. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twirly Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Oh no, not again, there was a thread about that the other day. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635531 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TillieTrotter Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 These banks need to take some responsibility and get cctv coverage of their machines. This is getting ridiculous! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635552 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 isn't it possible it was the same incident?But it is common enough these days - I don't think CCTV is the answer either.1) It's expensive - we will get charged somewhere for it2) every cashpoint? How practical is that?3) CCTV is already capturing these people somewhere between fleeing the scene and using the card somewhere else 4) they would just adapt measure to obscure faces near a cashpoint. Admittedly this might alert you to their presence but you should already be doing that anyway Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635554 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TillieTrotter Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Well if these arseholes knew that they were on camera then surely they'd think twice. Especially if it's the way they earn their living. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635561 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 As I say they are on camera already - let's say they do you at HSBC on LL and then peg it up to the PLough/Lloyds TSB cashpoint - I'm guessing there are several cameras which have already caught them and would easily identify them. What's missing are the people resources to review and then act on the footage - something which will only get worse as more and more CCTV is deployed. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635565 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TillieTrotter Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I take your point. But surely it's in the banks interest to protect their customers otherwise they'll lose them. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635574 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 But if the banks installed the CCTV, would they be protecting customers? And how so?And who would they lose customers to? If Bank C set up a network of ATMs with CCTV, would people flock to them? Nope - people don't flock to ANY bank. They sign up when they are young and for most people that' s it - the very thought of moving banks fills most people with dread and inertia Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635579 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loz Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I am always rather bemused that people see CCTV as some sort of wonder panacea for crime. In reality, they are pretty ineffective for the cost.Retro fitting them to the 55,000 ATMs in the UK would be a disaster as well. One way thieves get your PIN is by installing cameras near/on ATMs, If people start expecting a camera to be pointing at them, then they will be less likely to be suspicious if that camera is not kosher. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635607 Share on other sites More sharing options...
reetpetite Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 There is a camera already at the HSBC cashpoint , so there should be evidence of these thefts surely ? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635716 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TillieTrotter Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I might be being naive but they surely have a duty to protect their customers!!! If there is already cctv at this particular cashpoint then those robbed there need to insist that HSBC trawl the tapes for evidence or hand it to the police. These twats seem to be earning a living robbing people at various points around LL, don't ruin my pretty world by telling me there's nowt can be done about it. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635736 Share on other sites More sharing options...
UncleBen Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 The b*strds don't mind being captured on cctv as the 'punishments' are not deterrants ergo cctv pointless. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_the_chin Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Anyone see the irony with this and the PCN thread? Wander into a bus lane and get the full force of the law, no get outs. Get your money nicked from a cash machine, law can do nothing. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635785 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Until people have unique numbers visible on their body, linked to a central database) that's likely to remain the case (and long may it be so)If its any consolation you can drive in a bus lane in a car with fake reg plates and get away with it too. Happy now? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-635787 Share on other sites More sharing options...
EDOliver Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Until people have unique numbers visible on their> body, linked to a central database) that's likely> to remain the case (and long may it be so)> > If its any consolation you can drive in a bus lane> in a car with fake reg plates and get away with it> too. Happy now?I have literally no idea what any of that means. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-636367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Medic Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Read it after a good nights sleep. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-636373 Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmama Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 There is an article about these thefts on southwark news dulwich and herne hill edition. Hopefully more people will become aware of it and be more careful before they too become victims. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-636743 Share on other sites More sharing options...
esme Posted April 19, 2013 Share Posted April 19, 2013 police didn't even stop to ask HSBC staff if they had CCTV, they just took the woman for a ride to see if she could spot either of them... didn't do any good :( shame always need to be so vigilant Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/31304-card-theft-hsbc-lordship-lane/#findComment-637176 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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