IPHONE / IPAD Users are fashion victims.

[the-e-dealer]

IPHONE / IPAD Users are fashion victims. For so many reasons. The first is feature leakage where several obvious features are left off the first model. Front Facing Camera, Memory Card Slot , Hi Res etc etc. Then six months later out comes a new model with one of missing features. The Victims rush out and buy this new far better model. then Six months later out comes a new model with yet another missing feature added. This goes on and on and up go Apple's Shares. Me I think HTC and Nokia are better - but the Windows Phone OS is Crap.

Another reason they are Fashion Victims is they DO look pretty. But really why buy a ?400 slab of plastic because its prettier than another ?400 slab of plastic? Especially as it spends most of the time in a pocket or bag. Surely Everyone can see this!

[Lowlander]

Apple have stalled. Many people who have bought their goods will remain, because they've bought into the Apple ecosystem.

There is nothing new in the release pipeline, and without the charismatic (ok, not to everyone) Steve Jobs, they'll now go back to where they were in 2002, serving a niche market, albeit much bigger than before.

Yes, the goods are over-priced (you can take a broken iPhone4 into the store for example, and they'll replace it for ?120 if they can't fix it). The marketing you describe is true.

But...they have brought technology to the masses, and technophobes love their support. On that I can't fault them. And, if I wasn't so mean, I'd probably buy one myself

[Jeremy]

Apple were ahead of the field for a long time, with ipod, iphone, and then ipad.

But yes, it does seem that recently they've fallen behind a little. It's still seen as a cool/high-end brand, but they won't be able to rely on that forever.

[StraferJack]

oh goodie, a format war thread. Those are brilli *shoots self in the head*

I'm platform agnostic, but have yet to find a phone that does things as well as iOs. And nothing in the pipeline overlooks the (probably correct) rumour about Johnathan Ives overhall of the OS design. The OS is feeling pretty tired and disjointed after a few upgrades

An equivalent Android/Windows/whatever phone isn't saving you much in terms of ?? - so I don't quite see how anyone is a fashion victim

Drop down a few android levels and you really start to notice screen quality and other problems

so top whack will get you a good android/windows/ios phone with best processor and screen. Brand doesn't really come into it

But ted with a chip on his shoulder - who knew?

[El Pibe]

I think he wa just obeying woody's instructions on starting a flamewar thread to the letter.

[the-e-dealer]

Shut it!

[StraferJack]

woody is on a roll these days andit's good to have hime around but the day people start doing what he actually tells them to do? Oy vey baby

[the-e-dealer]

I do agree with woodrot that we need a good barney on here. Apple really P**s me off so I thought I'd see what everyone else thought. I don't do what anyone says - unless they have a tazer! And I'd love to get an IPAD when they finish putting in all the missing features- In Particular the memory card slot and proper USB. I think that will be in the IPAD 8. Though I'm not averse to a bit of homebrew so If I find a soldering site I will do it.

[Salsaboy]

Apple = style over substance. Only good thing they invented is the Ipod.

[Jessie]

it took me ages to find the usb link on my iPad and then even longer to realise there wasn't one. Agreed, a very annoying omission.

[titch juicy]

"For so many reasons. The first is feature leakage where several obvious features are left off the first model. Front Facing Camera, Memory Card Slot , Hi Res etc etc. Then six months later out comes a new model with one of missing features. The Victims rush out and buy this new far better model. then Six months later out comes a new model with yet another missing feature added"

Why do you think this is exclusive to apple? it's industry standard behaviour.....in fact it's 'making money from manufacturing' standard behaviour.

A measure of how good/durable apple products are is the ipod classic- a model that hasn't changed in 7 years (an age in tech time) and is still a market leader at about ?200 (granted they only sell the 160gb version now, but you won't get a refurbed 80gb one for less than ?85-?90). My 80gb version is 6 years old, has been hammered it's whole life, and is like new.

A brilliant company that have consistently made brilliant products, that also look good.

[RosieH]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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But really why buy a ?400 slab of

> plastic because its prettier than another ?400

> slab of plastic?

I think you'll find the answer's in the question.

If you'd asked why buy a ?400 slab of plastic because its prettier than a ?300 slab of plastic, you might have a point. As it is, you don't really.

[LondonLogCo]

If Apple made a device that blew ted up as he pressed "post" I'd buy it

Whatever the cost

[woodrot]

160gb capacity

imagine all the nick cave & mumford and sons you can put on that.Probably enough room for dads to get down with the kids with a bit of grime.keeping it real on the 7.47 to London bridge.

*bumps fist*

respec bludz

[the-e-dealer]

LondonLogCo Wrote:

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> If Apple made a device that blew ted up as he

> pressed "post" I'd buy it

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> Whatever the cost

What do you m....

[LondonLogCo]

the-e-dealer Wrote:

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> > If Apple made a device that blew ted up as he

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:))

[healey]

I bought the iPad 1 in 2010 to surf the web with. I've used it every day since then. It's a useful tool for me.

I'm happy for other people not to buy them if they so choose.

[*Bob*]

Lowlander Wrote:

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> There is nothing new in the release pipeline

This looks sort-of new. Perhaps a little like the thing Obi-Wan creeps around to shut down the death star tractor beam. But that's a good thing..

http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/index2.html

[Jeremy]

A powerful computer in a fancy looking chassis.

Why hasn't anyone thought of that before?

[*Bob*]

No doubt they all will once it goes on sale.

It is as you describe, of course, but 'fancy chassis' slightly underplays what is a pretty bold design!

[Salsaboy]

And how much will they rip you off for that 'lifestyle' enhancement?

[*Bob*]

As always, I believe purchase is optional so it won't cost you anything.

The old Pro was a hulk for sure, but replacing it with a machine 1/8 the size represents some pretty nifty rethinking.

[the-e-dealer]

They've changed the icons a bit. ! Better buy a new one!

[Annette Curtain]

I like it very much

Can you keep your biscuits in it ?

[woodrot]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> Lowlander Wrote:

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> This looks sort-of new. Perhaps a little like the

> thing Obi-Wan creeps around to shut down the death

> star tractor beam. But that's a good thing..

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> http://www.apple.com/mac-pro/index2.html

I clicked on that link and get a picture of a tube with some stuff about coming later this year . Is that it ?

Todays cutting edge design is tomorrows kitsch and speeding along the recyling highway, keeping them chinese kids gainfully employed. Do I want to spend a grand to watch nononononono cat or another harlem shake mashup ( I fucking hate that word ) again ?

Apple are fucked.their innovation(theft of other people ideas)was their main advantage. All the design tweaks in the world ( in which we live in ) isnt enough to mask the moribundity of their range. ritual necrophiliac tendancies they employ to hawk their gadgetry has had its day. When the masses embrace your product, you make money, but how much more $ do they need at Apple ? their Warchest of billions has produced fuck all of note for the past few years.

When the hipster nazi vermin cease to buy your shite and your dad invests in one, then its the end bro'.

This self sustaining mythological cock about Apple being the creatives tech of choice should be put to death now.drowned in a bucket, like an unwanted kitten.If you are truly creative, you only need a slate and a piece of chalk. if you need an apple product to be creative, then you ought to rethink how you categorise yourself.

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