The No More Page 3 campaign

[polla2256]

I don't agree with the global agenda on this off topic issue. Policing is a local issue (as in our country) and should remain that way. Our laws, our customs. No need for a global ear tag. Can we talk about breasts now please.

[scareyt]

Hi everyone!

I think the real problem with page 3 is that it provides such an easy way for idiots to intimidate, harass and bully women and girls. It's so easy for a group of boys to buy the paper and wave page 3 around in front of girls to embarrass them that I'm sure it leads to more bullying and harassment than there would be if it didn't exist. Using page 3 against women like this requires no effort or imagination at all, and the fact that it exists in a newspaper makes it seem ok.

I'm so convinced that this is the real problem, and that it's nothing to do with prudery, that I created a website to collect the stories of women who have had page 3 used against them. It's here if anybody wants to have a look, or to add a story. I hope it might help to sway some opinions!

http://www.page3stories.org

Some of the stories are really sad. When I started the website I assumed that most of them would be about unpleasant incidents in public, but what's come in so far is worse than I imagined - a lot of them seem to be about the cumulative effects on mental health or physical health of long-term bullying and abuse, including child abuse, within families. These are stories that aren't getting told anywhere else. Of course there will still be horrible people in the world if we get rid of page 3, but why continue to provide these photos that make it so easy for them to continue with, and above all to excuse, this way of treating women, because the photos are in a newspaper which means that "nobody else minds"?

There is a demo this Sunday 17th November in London to mark the 43rd birthday of page 3. Details here: http://nomorepage3.org/news/page-3-43rd-birthday-protests/

[fl0wer]

Brilliant website scareyt.

Somehow, please can you convey to all those writers my appreciation of their powerful storytelling.

[scareyt]

Thanks fl0wer.

[Loz]

Coop tells the bunch of prudes to sod off.

http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/aug/13/page-3-co-operative-group

If there was a co-op near me, I'd head down there and buy something. Though not the Sun, obviously.

[Earl Aelfheah]

You mean you don't live in ED?

Loz Wrote:

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> Coop tells the bunch of prudes to sod off.

>

> http://www.theguardian.com/media/greenslade/2014/a

> ug/13/page-3-co-operative-group

>

> If there was a co-op near me, I'd head down there

> and buy something. Though not the Sun, obviously.

[Loz]

Ex-ED. Like quite a few round here. There was a thread not too long ago.

[numbers]

Shopping at Waitrose now are you Loz?

[Loz]

Funnily enough, did my first waitrose.com shop this very evening, as there is one a couple of miles away.

[MrBen]

The old guard east dulwich activist intelligentsia have been priced out. And they now live in Surrey, Sussex, Bromley and Whitstable. Raging and frothing from the benign suburbs.

[jimbo1964]

The co-op have stopped stocking Zoo and the now deceased Nuts. I think page 3 will eventually just fizzle out of it's own accord. It's just a bit of anachronism.

[????]

So co-op stop selling zoo - maybe a handful of copies a month but the Sun...500K copies a week sold in the co-op gets no ban

Can't work it out myself

[Jeremy]

TBH I don't have a big problem with lads mags (apart from the fact that they're rubbish). They're not pretending to be something they're not, or masquerading as "news". I've no particular urge to see the latest Hollyoaks starlet in a bikini, but I don't hold a grudge against those who do (and get reviews of the new Kasabian album and Jason Statham movie thrown into the mix).

[MrBen]

"I've no particular urge to see the latest Hollyoaks starlet in a bikini"

I couldn't agree more.

*coughs*

[*Bob*]

What could be more natural than catching-up with the latest from Gaza (in large print, no more than three lines) - and then feasting your eyes on a massive pair of tits?

It's not doing any harm and if you say it is - you're probably a poofter or a lezza.

eh lads?!

am I right OR AM I RIGHT?!

[Loz]

MrBen Wrote:

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> The old guard east dulwich activist intelligentsia have been priced out. And they now live in Surrey,

> Sussex, Bromley and Whitstable. Raging and frothing from the benign suburbs.

In my case, South Ealing/Northfields way. It's very much like East Dulwich, but with a tube station.

[Seabag]

Loz Wrote:

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> MrBen Wrote:

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> > The old guard east dulwich activist

> intelligentsia have been priced out. And they now

> live in Surrey,

> > Sussex, Bromley and Whitstable. Raging and

> frothing from the benign suburbs.

>

> In my case, South Ealing/Northfields way. It's

> very much like East Dulwich, but with a tube

> station.

You left out Lewes Mr Ben, it's a rising strong on the EDF exodus trail

I personally have a hide-out in Sydenham woods (sounds creepy I know)

[Otta]

Tonbridge and Rotherham are places my old crew have fucked off to.

[Seabag]

I actually 'sped read' The Sun today

God, with or without page 3 it's awful

I was with my 10 yr old in a cafe, so I skipped the page 3 bit quite consciously, as I looked up he was looking right at me, knowingly

[MrBen]

> You left out Lewes Mr Ben, it's a rising strong on

> the EDF exodus trail

I've been to Lewes a few times and no there's doubt its a nice family town with interesting history of pope burning, good beer and high speed rail links. But have you seen the price of a house there?

If I ever decide to head to woop woop I want to trade in my very average south london terrace for a 6 bedder, swimming pool and a few acres at least and plenty other options in stockbroker belt /Kent offer that.

Sorry - not about the Sun.... Can we get back to naked breasts now please?

[El Pibe]

don't write off the building-a-mansion-for-?22.36p-in-quite-literally-the-arse-end-of-nowhere_abroad option until you've tried it!!

Of course naked breasts are frowned upon round here, mainly because of the instinctive reaction to frown upon everything, it's all that excess guilt...