Is East Dulwich Becoming Too Posh? (Lounged)

[Ant]

Quite, Brendan. Or even closer to hand, a quick stroll down towards the Dog.

[lozzyloz]

I came to East Dulwich in 2003 after living abroad for several years. I immediately fell in love with the area because it seemed to be a melting pot of all sorts of characters from different walks of life living together and creating a feeling of diversity and creativity. There is a buzz that exists as a result of some of the quality businesses already established here and that has provided a motivation for others to either upgrade or for new ones to join the mix. Naturally something good will attract ohers and that has to be a good thing for us all if these businesses thrive as a result. It also means that property's are being modernised, refurbished and renovated which I think helps to further polish this gem of an area. I don't think any of the above constitutes being posh. Far from it. What it means is that we live in an area that is vibrant and alive and real.

Try telling residents in Peckham that regeneration will make them too posh!

[Brendan]

"vibrant and alive and real" Very true.

[dulwichmum]

Indeed you sweet darlings, East Dulwich is a sweet vibrant little melting pot. It is certainly not posh, and it will never be Peckham! OHMYGOD! I shop for cheese over there...

[dulwichmum]

Actually on second thoughts - it is a shade more like Pompei than I would like...

To think I have had my dry cleaning done on Lordship Lane (not my ball gowns or couture - clearly, they go to Scobies in the Village) for years! I shall rethink my Saturdays from now on unless the tone around SE22 lifts itself back out of the gutter soon! Have you noticed the discussion on THAT other thread?

[fish]

Not too posh to rob.

[Maurice]

Why do people believe if they are born and raised in a community they have a right to be able to afford to buy a property there?

[SeanMacGabhann]

because that's what the idea of "community" is?

As opposed to a random collection of people living in the same geographical spot

That said I agree that people assuming they have a "right" is a bit strong - but it's a sign that something isn't quite right if generations of your family have lived somewhere only to find you can't (choosing not too is far better ;-) )

[ChavWivaLawDegree]

Maurice you never fail to make my jaw drop.

[Maurice]

So how would this work exactly? Legislation gauranteeing any person born at a particular address is gauranteed a right to buy within one mile of that address from age 20-25 for market value at birth plus simple inflation? If the current market rate happens to be lower, would they be required to buy at the higher price?

[Maurice]

Oh and if their parents have benefitted from the price rise (assuming one), would they have to forfeit all profit to subsidise the child's purchase?

[blinder999]

would they also be banned from buying property outside their zone?

[Maurice]

Of course! They've surely no sense of community if they look elsewhere and should be punished.

[Brendan]

Interesting use of the word ?community? Maurice. An individual?s value to a community and involvement and acceptance therein does not hinge on their ability to afford a house.

Which is precisely why London is filed with people who are in general decent people but treat each other with suspicion.

I think what you wanted to say was ?bunch of houses in the same area with random people living in them?.

[Maurice]

No. I was using precise language offered in the original post.

[blinder999]

oh no - this means I would be stuck in Daventry, wherever that is

[Maurice]

My jaw joins Chav's on the floor when I recollect where I would be....

[SeanMacGabhann]

Maurice - the ability to move around and settle in other towns/communities doesn't disappear in static housing markets (certainly if one rents anyway)

As someone who has lived in 9 different towns I would also be horrified if I was stuck in my original town

But the reason people can't afford to live in their own towns if they WANT to, is not because of people moving from other areas, it's the overblown housing market and property speculation/second homes which is doing the damage, and there is a lot which could be done to dampen that down. But of course we won't because we LOVE these high property prices don't we?

[Maurice]

It's the age old debate, yes Sean. Those who own property feel quite differently from those who have not. Indeed.

[Administrator]

Lounged as it's no longer East Dulwich specific

[blinder999]

"their own towns" - I have no sense of ownership of any town in which I have lived in the past, especially not Daventry.

[*Bob*]

Did everybody demand the 'right to buy' in ED when it wasn't such a nice place to live?

Or did the ones that could afford it move away to more desirable postcodes?

[*Bob*]

I mean.. My home town was a shit place to live when I was 18. So I left. But maybe it's really nice now.. perhaps I should pop back and demand my right to buy - in the best part of town, of course.

[blinder999]

*Bob* Wrote:

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> I mean.. My home town was a shit place to live

> when I was 18. So I left. But maybe it's really

> nice now.. perhaps I should pop back and demand my

> right to buy - in the best part of town, of

> course.

wow if the property market worked that way, it would be like the best bits of communism mixed with the best bits of fascism - a genius third way.

[Brendan]

Oh be sensible. No one has the right to buy anything by virtue of their birthplace. It has more to do with greed and social climbing and the constant sliming up the property ladder in order to achieve, what? Brings out the worst in people as you lot have just proved.