Dog Fouling in the East Dulwich area

[boosboss]

jrussel Wrote:

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> I'm not sure that they should be given away for

> free. Presumably they are paid for out of public

> funds? It does not seem right that public money

> should be used to subsidise dog owners who won't

> clear up after their dogs at their own initiative.

So dog owners don't pay into public funds then?

Dog owners obtaining the bags are ones that DO clean up after their dogs, why else would they want the bags? Besides, if it encourages more people to pick up that's got to be a good thing.

The council has a street cleaning team dedicated to responding to calls from the public to remove dog mess from pavements, but of course that also comes from the local public purse.

Nappy sacks and poo bags are ideal for the purpose. Most carrier bags are not as many have holes in them to prevent children from suffocating themselves and as such allow faeces to ooze through, which puts many people off using them.

[HonaloochieB]

Anyone else hinky about the use of the word 'poo'? It's shit, let's call it the shit that it is.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

And 'hinky' means what?

[first mate]

jrussel,

Not sure public funds should be used to clear up broken glass, cigarette butts, used chicken bones, chewing gum (gosh the list is endless) users have not cleared up on their own initiative. You seem fixated on the dog issue in particular. What is your solution?

[dc]

Peckhamgatecrasher Wrote:

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> And 'hinky' means what?

I assume it's something that gives a Mott the Hoople fan a 'wibbly wobbly tummy'.

[SteveT]

SeanMLow was fined ?80 for dropping a cigar butt.

What price for dog turds(?)

[dc]

SteveT Wrote:

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> SeanMLow was fined ?80 for dropping a cigar butt.

>

> What price for dog turds(?)

?50 apparently - if you pay on time. Otherwise ?75 and costs: Southwark dog fouling fine

[spadetownboy]

SteveT Wrote:

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> SeanMLow was fined ?80 for dropping a cigar butt.

>

> What price for dog turds(?)

dont even go down that road, the thought of sml, whinging on about being fined over a crap is just too much.;-)

[Eileen]

Information just available:

DULWICH FUN DOG EVENT @ Goose Green

East Dulwich Road SE22

Saturday 24 May 2008 ? 12pm to 3pm

Guide dogs for the blind ? stall and info about guide dogs

Expert dog handler demonstrations

Micro chipping service

Freebies & treats for your dog

Local dog trainer available for advice and tips on responsible dog ownership

This event has been organised by the Dulwich Community Wardens. To find out more contact them on 020 7525 0051. They have fliers they are distributing. So if you would like to distribute them in your area or give them to people you see offending in some way with their dogs, you might give them one.

[jumpinjackflash]

Eileen, does the event include a dog show?! My mutt lost out to a Ridgeback at the last dog event in the Rye - he might fare better this year!

[MadWorld74]

there's dog shit all over the bloody pavements round my next of the woods, and the bloody buggers have even managed to get a bulls-eye right into the middle of those 'don't let you dog foul here' yellow srayed on signs on the pavement. Funny. Not.

[Eileen]

jumpinjackflash Wrote:

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> Eileen, does the event include a dog show?! My

> mutt lost out to a Ridgeback at the last dog event

> in the Rye - he might fare better this year!

It doesn't look like it, **Guide dogs for the blind, Expert dog handler, Micro chipping, Freebies & treats, Local dog trainer, tips on responsible dog ownership**, but still worth visiting I think. Pity we haven't had more notice so we could have advertised it widely to all those who need some dog education ... But there is still time to get the info out and try to increase the number of owners trained on how to be good owners.

[SteveT]

Dropping cigar butts cost ?80

and dog fouling at ?50 does not make any sense.

Does the punishment fit the crime(?)

In my opinion seanmlow has been stitched up.

[jrussel]

It does seem a little disproportionate that someone should be fined ?80 for a cigarette butt, but only ?50 for dog faeces. I don't think anyone can argue that a cigarette butt is the easier of the two items to clean up, nor the lesser health and safety hazard.

As regards the comments about the free dog waste bags: as a practical solution, I suppose it works, to subsidise dog owners from the public purse in this way, if it will stop them from leaving the mess on the pavements which will be even more costly to clean up. The point is, though, that they should not be leaving the mess in the first place, and the same applies to anyone else whether they are dropping cigarette butts, broken glass, childrens' sweets wrappers or anything else.

[RosieH]

jrussel Wrote:

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> As regards the comments about the free dog waste

> bags: as a practical solution, I suppose it works,

> to subsidise dog owners from the public purse in

> this way, if it will stop them from leaving the

> mess on the pavements which will be even more

> costly to clean up. The point is, though, that

> they should not be leaving the mess in the first

> place, and the same applies to anyone else whether

> they are dropping cigarette butts, broken glass,

> childrens' sweets wrappers or anything else.

Quite right. The same applies to many things - we subsidise smokers when they're in hospital with lung cancer, and they shouldn't be smoking in the first place.

[Asset]

yes but we subsidise non smokers also - all those ill people, gawd - and many smokers don't end up in hosp due to their affliction and just pop off quietly after 50 years of 20 a day. Let's abolish the NHS.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

I think you'll find we pay enough tax on cigarettes to fund our own hospitals.

[kookylittlestar]

I've noticed a lot of small turds resembling dog mess around my road, As we keep seeing a family of four foxes in our garden and seem to be hearing a lot of foxes in the area I wondered if they could be to blame? Particularly as there are 3 small cubs who obviously have been recent additions to the population (plus I assume there are others), possibly hence the sudden spate in mess!

[willow]

The fine for dropping litter isn't ?80. It's ?75 but ?50 if you pay within 14 days.

[dc]

dc Wrote:

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> > What price for dog turds(?)

>

> ?50 apparently - if you pay on time. Otherwise ?75

I hate to quote myself but it now appears that, after all, a stogie's the same price as a steamer.

[macroban]

Was this the first jrussel?

[huncamunca]

jack Russel ?