Election tactical voting in East Dulwich

[Sue]

I think this is a local issue, but admin  please move to the lounge if not.

Boundaries have changed, and my bit of East Dulwich (or possibly all of East Dulwich?) is now combined with Lewisham West.

According to the Get Voting website (see screenshot below), this  is such a safe seat for Labour that tactical voting is not necessary.

I do wonder whether it will turn out to be as safe a seat as they predict, as many people I know who used to vote Labour can no longer bring themselves to do that (for reasons which are definitely a lounge issue!).

I think many people in our area may vote Green, and I'm interested to know people's thoughts (I'm not asking for individual voting intentions, unless you are happy to divulge them!)

The Labour candidate is Ellie Reeves, Rachel Reeves' sister.

[malumbu]

Cut and dried Labour victory.  So it's safe to have a protest vote as l will do for only the third time in numerous elections 

[Suggsy]

Everywhere around here is a slam dunk for Labour. I do wonder why thousands of fairly pointless leaflets are going out for Helen Hayes - huge majority - will no one think of the climate emergency? 

[Mabaker]

Me too. Die hard labour supporter but voting Green hoping we get a sizable minority

[Suggsy]

yes there does seem to be a drift from Labour to the Greens 

[Sue]

9 hours ago, Suggsy said:

Everywhere around here is a slam dunk for Labour. I do wonder why thousands of fairly pointless leaflets are going out for Helen Hayes - huge majority - will no one think of the climate emergency? 

Which bit of East Dulwich will Helen Hayes still "have"? Sorry, too lazy to Google.

I think she is/was an excellent and responsive constituency MP, but some of her actions on wider issues  in recent years have been iffy to say the least (in my opinion).

I don't know if people locally have written to her about it, but if a significant number did, that could explain the leaflets?

I wouldn't have voted for her again. I would have written to her to tell her why if the boundaries hadn't changed.

[the_hermit]

I suspect many people who were put off by Corbyn will vote Labour this time.

[mrwb]

Green landslide incoming :)?

[alice]

Protest vote is a bit prisoners dilemma. 

[ed_pete]

2 hours ago, Sue said:

Which bit of East Dulwich will Helen Hayes still "have"? Sorry, too lazy to Google.

 

Both Dulwich Hill and Goose Green wards are in the new constituency.

[Sue]

46 minutes ago, the_hermit said:

I suspect many people who were put off by Corbyn will vote Labour this time.

I suspect many people who were not put off by Corbyn and/or are put off by Starmer will vote Green this  time.

I could write a great deal about Starmer, but if I do this thread will get lounged 🤣

[Sue W2]

I am a great believer in voting according to your beliefs, which in my case is Labour.   The principle here is a fairer more equitable society: taxes to fund better public services.  As Shakespeare said,  "So distribution should undo excess, and each man have enough"

[Cyclemonkey]

Hello from Lewisham West.  Ellie Reeves is a decent constituency MP and a local (she grew up in Sydenham).

[malumbu]

What are you basing that on?  I write to her about transport issues and get standard lines back, I suspect she doesn't read much of her correspondence unlike her forerunner who read everything and disappointed that her office isn't more on the ball.  She says the right thing on X but not sure she follows this through.  Obviously primed for higher office.

Doesn't make her a bad politician just not sure about supporting her constituents on wider matters.  Conversely on individuals with serious personal issues heard better things.

[heartblock]

Green, because I agree with their policies … see easy isn’t it. 

[Forest Hill Climber]

I can't vote for Reeves. I've written to her a couple of times and got unsatisfactory responses. She seems to be a party line box ticker.

I'll probably vote Green or Lib Dem, but it would be good to see some campaigning from them, or at least some campaign material from any of them. 

Edited June 24, 2024 by Forest Hill Climber

[AddicksAddict]

10 minutes ago, Forest Hill Climber said:

I can't vote for Reeves. I've written to her a couple of times and got unsatisfactory responses. She seems to be a party line box ticker.

I'll probably vote Green or Lib Dem, but it would be good to see some campaigning from them, or at least some campaign material from any of them. 

It's a reasonably safe seat for Labour and Reeves is the Deputy National Campaign Co-ordinator, which should be taking up a lot of her time during an election, so it's not too surprising there's not a lot of campaigning here.

Edited June 24, 2024 by AddicksAddict

[Forest Hill Climber]

Just now, AddicksAddict said:

It's a reasonably safe seat for Labour and Reeves is the Deputy National Campaign Co-ordinator, which should be taking up a lot of her time during an election, so it's not too surprising there's not a lot of campaigning in here.

Yes, understood, she has a very safe seat. But why is there nothing from Greens or Lib Dems? Have they given up before even starting - then why bother even offering candidatea?

[AddicksAddict]

On tactical voting, I'd only due it if there was a chance of getting rid of someone I'd didn't want.  I wouldn't do it as a protest against some aspect of the party I'd naturally support that I didn't agree with.  So, in the case of Labour, I'd want them to be more radical than they're promising but I'd still vote for them here.

3 minutes ago, Forest Hill Climber said:

Yes, understood, she has a very safe seat. But why is there nothing from Greens or Lib Dems? Have they given up before even starting - then why bother even offering candidatea?

They've got better places to spend their campaigning funds on, e.g. Bristol Central for the Greens.  As to why bother offering candidates, for a country-wide party you pretty much have to and the Lib Dems certainly see themselves as that, the Greens are probably getting that way, too.  Labour will put up people in seats where the Tories get over 50% of the votes, and vice versa, because to not do so would be seen as defeatist.

Anyone, off to work, so that's my tuppence worth on this topic.

[Pugwash]

Have received both Lib Dem and Green leaflets (Dulwich Hill ward).  Both Labour and Conservatives have lots of money from donors funding their campaigns    the other 2 parties have limited resources .

Many years ago when Lib Dems were just Liberals - their election campaigns were funded primarily from income derived from jumble sales.  I helped out at many of these events which took place at Emmanuel Church Hall (now Christ Church) and Dulwich Baths, They were the original  recycling  and anti landfill party.