Football Focus

[Jah Lush]

There are a lot of similarities here to when Frank O'Farrell took over from Sir Matt Busby. An ageing team past its best and in desperate need of rebuilding, one "superstar"- player for Rooney see George Best and a manager though well respected not quite up to the job.

[david_carnell]

Moyes has a better record than Fergie for their respective first 31 games in charge.

Then again, Moyes doesn't have Clayton Blackmore.

[titch juicy]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> Moyes has a better record than Fergie for their

> respective first 31 games in charge.

>

> Then again, Moyes doesn't have Clayton Blackmore.

The game has changed (probably for the worse) since those days. I'm not sure 'losing the dressing room' was even a concept back then, as players were paid a fraction of what they are now and player power was a horrifying vision of the future.

[red devil]

david_carnell Wrote:

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> Then again, Moyes doesn't have Clayton Blackmore.

:) Leave our Suntan out of it...

[Parkdrive]

Is anyone actually surprised that Moyes has been bounced? It was obvious pretty early on he was out his depth. I'm surprised he's lasted as long as he has. Perhaps if he hadn't been SAF's chosen one, he may have been shown the exit far earlier. Was it just case of saving face by hanging on to him for so long because he was was Fergies boy?

[red devil]

titch juicy Wrote:

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> Changed my tune on LVG? What did I say? My memory

> is terrible. If it was about him coming to spurs,

> I'd stand by it if Moyes was kept on. If United

> were managerless then it wouldn't be a tough

> choice between the two.

Be afraid, be very afraid... http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/david-moyes-sacked-could-the-sacked-manchester-united-manager-end-up-at-tottenham-9273377.html

[Mick Mac]

red devil Wrote:

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> titch juicy Wrote:

> --------------------------------------------------

> -----

>

> > Changed my tune on LVG? What did I say? My

> memory

> > is terrible. If it was about him coming to

> spurs,

> > I'd stand by it if Moyes was kept on. If United

> > were managerless then it wouldn't be a tough

> > choice between the two.

>

> Be afraid, be very afraid...

> http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premie

> r-league/david-moyes-sacked-could-the-sacked-manch

> ester-united-manager-end-up-at-tottenham-9273377.h

> tml

Yes - maybe he will have to work again RD, when MU stop paying him in 2019. ;)

[Otta]

Moyes would not fit Spurs at all. He just doesn't do attacking football.

The thing that gets me about this is simply how much the players seem to have publically undermined him. I think clubs should fine players everytime they speak out of line on social media, they are paid massive sums of money, and that should be enough to buy their loyalty.

[Jah Lush]

Fortunately, Moyes' stock has fallen since Levy was apparently interested in him. I don't think he'd be that stupid to go back in on damaged goods. And Otta's right. His brand of safety first football wouldn't go down well with Spurs fans.

[Otta]

Beeb

"Klopp has ruled himself out of the job, the 46-year-old telling The Guardian: "Man Utd is a great club and I feel very familiar with their wonderful fans. But my commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable."

[Parkdrive]

Otta Wrote:

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> Moyes would not fit Spurs at all. He just doesn't

> do attacking football.

>

> The thing that gets me about this is simply how

> much the players seem to have publically

> undermined him. I think clubs should fine players

> everytime they speak out of line on social media,

> they are paid massive sums of money, and that

> should be enough to buy their loyalty.

You and I both know that is a very idealistic view, very very few players are loyal regardless of the obscene amounts they receive.

[red devil]

Jah Lush Wrote:

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> Fortunately, Moyes' stock has fallen since Levy

> was apparently interested in him. I don't think

> he'd be that stupid to go back in on damaged

> goods. And Otta's right. His brand of safety first

> football wouldn't go down well with Spurs fans.

Didn't stop them employing AVB. But joking aside, it does make you wonder why he got the Utd job, he wasn't known for open, attacking football. Maybe Fergie thought he would adapt to Utd???...

[red devil]

Otta Wrote:

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> Beeb

>

> "Klopp has ruled himself out of the job, the

> 46-year-old telling The Guardian: "Man Utd is a

> great club and I feel very familiar with their

> wonderful fans. But my commitment to Borussia

> Dortmund and the people is not breakable."

Damn! I was just about to knock up a The Lederhosen One banner...

[red devil]

Mick Mac Wrote:

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> Yes - maybe he will have to work again RD, when MU

> stop paying him in 2019. ;)

One theory for the timing of his sacking Mick is that there was a break clause that could be triggered if Utd didn't qualify for the CL. This coincided with the Everton defeat. Apparently a rep of the LMA is at OT discussing his severence package, he'll do well to get ?10m...

[titch juicy]

I love Jurgen Klopp so much. BVB is very much my second team and I had the pleasure of going to a game last year in the Westfalion Stadion.

[StraferJack]

It's going tobe Van Gaal isn't it

He's told spurs he won't be going to WHL

[Jah Lush]

Where and when did he say that?

[StraferJack]

according to a footie journo on twitter - can't link to it on work machine

[StraferJack]

Simon Mullock from Sunday Mirror it was who wrote it:

"dutch source has told me that Van Gaal has alreadyinformed Spurs he won't be going to White Hart Lane"

[titch juicy]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> Simon Mullock from Sunday Mirror it was who wrote

> it:

>

> "dutch source has told me that Van Gaal has

> alreadyinformed Spurs he won't be going to White

> Hart Lane"

Lol

Unnamed Dutch Source = Geezer in coffee shop in the 'dam

[StraferJack]

So people think he is going to WHL?

Really?

[Mick Mac]

red devil Wrote:

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> Mick Mac Wrote:

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> > Yes - maybe he will have to work again RD, when

> MU

> > stop paying him in 2019. ;)

>

>

> One theory for the timing of his sacking Mick is

> that there was a break clause that could be

> triggered if Utd didn't qualify for the CL. This

> coincided with the Everton defeat. Apparently a

> rep of the LMA is at OT discussing his severence

> package, he'll do well to get ?10m...

Will be interesting to see if there is any truth in that - if it is true then Man United are smarter than I thought - but also slightly pessimistic (turned realistic) in looking towards the prospect of non performance.

[titch juicy]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> So people think he is going to WHL?

>

> Really?

No. Probably not

[Rhinestone Cowboy]

made me smile

Nigel Farage: David Moyes should join Ukip after taking Man Utd out of Europe

[Jah Lush]

StraferJack Wrote:

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> So people think he is going to WHL?

>

> Really?

I never thought he would. Check my previous posts if you want any confirmation.