Jah Lush Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 There are a lot of similarities here to when Frank O'Farrell took over from Sir Matt Busby. An ageing team past its best and in desperate need of rebuilding, one "superstar"- player for Rooney see George Best and a manager though well respected not quite up to the job. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
david_carnell Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Moyes has a better record than Fergie for their respective first 31 games in charge.Then again, Moyes doesn't have Clayton Blackmore. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740355 Share on other sites More sharing options...
titch juicy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 david_carnell Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Moyes has a better record than Fergie for their> respective first 31 games in charge.> > Then again, Moyes doesn't have Clayton Blackmore.The game has changed (probably for the worse) since those days. I'm not sure 'losing the dressing room' was even a concept back then, as players were paid a fraction of what they are now and player power was a horrifying vision of the future. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740366 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 david_carnell Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Then again, Moyes doesn't have Clayton Blackmore.:) Leave our Suntan out of it... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740374 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Is anyone actually surprised that Moyes has been bounced? It was obvious pretty early on he was out his depth. I'm surprised he's lasted as long as he has. Perhaps if he hadn't been SAF's chosen one, he may have been shown the exit far earlier. Was it just case of saving face by hanging on to him for so long because he was was Fergies boy? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740375 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 titch juicy Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Changed my tune on LVG? What did I say? My memory> is terrible. If it was about him coming to spurs,> I'd stand by it if Moyes was kept on. If United> were managerless then it wouldn't be a tough> choice between the two.Be afraid, be very afraid... http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/david-moyes-sacked-could-the-sacked-manchester-united-manager-end-up-at-tottenham-9273377.html Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740377 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> titch juicy Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > > Changed my tune on LVG? What did I say? My> memory> > is terrible. If it was about him coming to> spurs,> > I'd stand by it if Moyes was kept on. If United> > were managerless then it wouldn't be a tough> > choice between the two.> > Be afraid, be very afraid...> http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premie> r-league/david-moyes-sacked-could-the-sacked-manch> ester-united-manager-end-up-at-tottenham-9273377.h> tmlYes - maybe he will have to work again RD, when MU stop paying him in 2019. ;) Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Moyes would not fit Spurs at all. He just doesn't do attacking football.The thing that gets me about this is simply how much the players seem to have publically undermined him. I think clubs should fine players everytime they speak out of line on social media, they are paid massive sums of money, and that should be enough to buy their loyalty. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740388 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Fortunately, Moyes' stock has fallen since Levy was apparently interested in him. I don't think he'd be that stupid to go back in on damaged goods. And Otta's right. His brand of safety first football wouldn't go down well with Spurs fans. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted April 22, 2014 Author Share Posted April 22, 2014 Beeb"Klopp has ruled himself out of the job, the 46-year-old telling The Guardian: "Man Utd is a great club and I feel very familiar with their wonderful fans. But my commitment to Borussia Dortmund and the people is not breakable." Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740391 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Moyes would not fit Spurs at all. He just doesn't> do attacking football.> > The thing that gets me about this is simply how> much the players seem to have publically> undermined him. I think clubs should fine players> everytime they speak out of line on social media,> they are paid massive sums of money, and that> should be enough to buy their loyalty.You and I both know that is a very idealistic view, very very few players are loyal regardless of the obscene amounts they receive. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740392 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Jah Lush Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Fortunately, Moyes' stock has fallen since Levy> was apparently interested in him. I don't think> he'd be that stupid to go back in on damaged> goods. And Otta's right. His brand of safety first> football wouldn't go down well with Spurs fans.Didn't stop them employing AVB. But joking aside, it does make you wonder why he got the Utd job, he wasn't known for open, attacking football. Maybe Fergie thought he would adapt to Utd???... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740394 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Otta Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Beeb> > "Klopp has ruled himself out of the job, the> 46-year-old telling The Guardian: "Man Utd is a> great club and I feel very familiar with their> wonderful fans. But my commitment to Borussia> Dortmund and the people is not breakable."Damn! I was just about to knock up a The Lederhosen One banner... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740396 Share on other sites More sharing options...
red devil Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Mick Mac Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Yes - maybe he will have to work again RD, when MU> stop paying him in 2019. ;)One theory for the timing of his sacking Mick is that there was a break clause that could be triggered if Utd didn't qualify for the CL. This coincided with the Everton defeat. Apparently a rep of the LMA is at OT discussing his severence package, he'll do well to get ?10m... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740397 Share on other sites More sharing options...
titch juicy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 I love Jurgen Klopp so much. BVB is very much my second team and I had the pleasure of going to a game last year in the Westfalion Stadion. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740408 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 It's going tobe Van Gaal isn't itHe's told spurs he won't be going to WHL Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740426 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Where and when did he say that? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740428 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 according to a footie journo on twitter - can't link to it on work machine Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 Simon Mullock from Sunday Mirror it was who wrote it:"dutch source has told me that Van Gaal has alreadyinformed Spurs he won't be going to White Hart Lane" Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
titch juicy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Simon Mullock from Sunday Mirror it was who wrote> it:> > "dutch source has told me that Van Gaal has> alreadyinformed Spurs he won't be going to White> Hart Lane"LolUnnamed Dutch Source = Geezer in coffee shop in the 'dam Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740436 Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraferJack Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 So people think he is going to WHL?Really? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740443 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Mac Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 red devil Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Mick Mac Wrote:> --------------------------------------------------> -----> > > Yes - maybe he will have to work again RD, when> MU> > stop paying him in 2019. ;)> > > One theory for the timing of his sacking Mick is> that there was a break clause that could be> triggered if Utd didn't qualify for the CL. This> coincided with the Everton defeat. Apparently a> rep of the LMA is at OT discussing his severence> package, he'll do well to get ?10m...Will be interesting to see if there is any truth in that - if it is true then Man United are smarter than I thought - but also slightly pessimistic (turned realistic) in looking towards the prospect of non performance. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
titch juicy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> So people think he is going to WHL?> > Really?No. Probably not Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhinestone Cowboy Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 made me smileNigel Farage: David Moyes should join Ukip after taking Man Utd out of Europe Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jah Lush Posted April 22, 2014 Share Posted April 22, 2014 StraferJack Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> So people think he is going to WHL?> > Really?I never thought he would. Check my previous posts if you want any confirmation. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/35029-football-focus/page/105/#findComment-740506 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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