Peckham Rye - how dodgy is it?

[snoozequeen1]

Asset Wrote:

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> There are a lot of very high horses galloping

> about

Absolutely. Black women! Born here, live here, work here, and now, they want to get their hair done. And possibly, their nails too. In ethnic beauty salons

Overwhelming and outnumbering Lidl and Barclays Bank and the Post Office, that's what.

Shockin.

[charlie chuckles]

I'm not sure about the Boots in Rye lane, but you'll find some lovely big Bootys there.

[MadWorld74]

pk Wrote:

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> MadWorld74 Wrote:

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> > what the hell is the problem with these bloody

> > people banging on about racism. FOR THE LOVE OF

> > CHRIST.......stop making a mountain out of a

> mole

> > hill.

> >

> > I said that Peckham was grubby and dirty and

> > needed some TLC, as did many other people!

> >

> > Some people could start an argument in am empty

> > room.

>

>

> typical example of what i was talking about - a

> response to a post that didn't try to think about

> the preceding post, rather jumped to an immediate

> conclusion - not trying to start an argument or

> making arrogant statements about 'bloody people'

> just trying to express an opinion

>

> i wasn't calling you a racist - to you i was

> pointing out that you don't know how to spell

> 'hear, hear' (and can't be bothered to check

> despite the fact that you're sat on the internet)

>

> my comments re racism were about the wider thread,

> but guess that you're not open to others' opinions

PK you are not entitled to make a judgement about how I view others' opinions. I'm also not interested in how you view my spelling mistakes.

Get down off that stool of yours, you may fall off and hurt yourself.

[Spangles30]

well said madworld.

[Administrator]

Lounged as it has turned into a pie fight.

[MadWorld74]

comfy in the lounge isn't fellow pie throwers ....

[Spangles30]

Indeed. As soon as there is genuine and/or lively debate the thread gets pulled or bunged in to this 'Lounge'. I think we need to take heed and ensure our views are middle-of-the-road and overtly politically correct.

YAWN.

[ChavWivaLawDegree]

I agree that the undertone of many of the negative comments about Rye Lane was rascist and I also agree that many people's lack of knowledge of the 'other' is what fuels this probably unwitting prejudice.

I used to hate Peckham because it was the area that the kids on the estate I lived on in Elephant & Castle used to have wars with and my kids had issues with some of the Peckham youts. My shopping area at that time was East Street. But since moving to East Dulwich, I cycle through Peckham every day and Peckham is now my local shopping area. I hardly ever go to Lordship Lane because I don't buy things that have no use and the shops in Peckham sell far more useful stuff than the tarted up crap sold in Lordship Lane.

[Asset]

Now come on CWALD, don't get bogged down in the sweeping generalisations. Generalisations are not necesarily rascist, just irritating, and there is a lot of useful stuff sold on LL just as there is a lot of useless crap sold on PR, like everywhere.

Louisa was the only person who referred to 'e-coli ridden food' and we have to take everything she says with a bucket of salt.

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

Damn, I've missed the big fight.

Just to throw some light on Talfourd Road re parochial boundaries, the half with the Fire Station belongs to All Saints, Camberwell (confusing - actually in Peckham but in Camberwell Deanery); the other half of the road is attached to St Giles, Camberwell.

[Nero]

There are very white parts of Manchester, like Gorton and Harpurhey, Blackley and Newton Heath that were like Rye Lane is now, but with less money. I disliked them in the same way I dislike Rye Lane. But I will add that I don't like the feel of the place. I am white and I feel very out of place with such a high concentration of halal shops and hair beading places and evangelical churches that are mainly aimed at Africans. It's just not part of my day to day culture, and I feel somewhat alienated, and that is not a nice feeling for anyone. It doesn't make me racist, but I am not afraid to say that I don't like feeling a stranger in somewhere that is only a few miles from my house. Neither is it racist for a newcomer to this country to say he or she feels like a fish out of water in some parts of London. For the record, I am anti-multiculturalism and pro multi-ethnicity, but I feel that there are too many immigrants in London.

[PeckhamRose]

Peckham Rye to me is different area to Peckham.

I live on Peckham Rye and Peckham itself is where the Peckham Rye Station is. Peckham Rye station wanted to call itself just Peckham station but the one in Queens Road used to be called Peckham so the one in Peckham called itself Peckham Rye, but then the one in Queen's Road changed it's name to Queens Road Peckham!

I think.

Anywayyyyy Peckham Rye where the park and common is, is also called Nunhead by some people on the SE15 side, specially those looking to sell their property!

Peckham Rye is not 'dodgy' and I lived here 25 years. Just keeps getting better and better!

Peckham - Rye Lane area - is also great. Challenging sometimes, lots of aggression sometimes and crime often happens for reasons of drugs whilst the rich can afford their drugs so don't need to resort to crime.

I walk down there all the time and have no fears. Would I want to live 'down' in Peckham itself? Depends on who my neighbours were! The Choumert garden square would be lovely. But in the middle of a block surrounded by people playing music too loud and rowing, no thanks. And any of the above can happen at any place in any built up area.

But to choose to live in Peckham (or even Peckham Rye!) - assuming you are hapy with your choice of residence, there is nothing like it. But please do talk to people. (And I wish nore people would do this but some are shy) just talk to people at the bus stop and get to see what makes people tick. Even the stressed ones - relax and see what people can be like under the surface. They just want to get their shopping done and go home.

GREAT artistic centre 133 Rye Lane!

Lots of shops and busses to more expensive ones if you want.

Nice to walk around and join Peckham Society and go on architecture walks.

Enjoy!

[Derangedxzombie]

I live close to peckham rye lane.

The highstreet smells, it's overcrowded, the majority of people on the street at any given time are by fact african/carribean ethnicity.

I worked in a butchers and grocers there called Al sibtians. The boss Muhammad tried to overwork and underpay me, the meat being cut up and sold to people in neat little 75P packages were yellow scraps.

To put it bluntly, it's a shit hole and I don't know anyone of any nationality that likes it.

[Derangedxzombie]

I should add though it's not dangerous or anything, it's fine now days, no groups of teenagers trying to start trouble or anything. Just an unpleasant area because it's overcrowded and stinks.

[Anotherperson]

Here here Derangedxzombie. If I am going to pay high property prices I want to be a mile from cows and fields and fresh air not Peckham.

[Horsebox]

Epic 2 year bump.

[PeckhamRose]

What a bump!

I have now lived here nearly 27 years! That's how big a bump!

And it's got better!

Ripping off the workers, and shops ripping off customers, is something that is NOT unique to Peckham, honest.

Have you ever shopped in Harrods? Well there you are then.

[DJKillaQueen]

Yeah and Al Fahyed hates anyone of colour as well.....oh the irony!!!!

[peckhamboy]

Quite amazing. Derangedxzombie not only resuscitated a nearly 3 year old thread, but registered apparently for the sole purpose of doing so. That's some dedication for your first post.

[sidmeister]

I know this thread is long dormant, but I thought I'd add my two penn'orth here. I moved over from SE22 six months ago, and in the time I've been in this hellhole called "up and coming" Peckham Rye, I've had my motorbike vandalised twice and knocked down once (the repair bills are now running close to what the bike cost to buy), dodgy geezers hanging out outside my house every day, my car scratched up, and rubbish thrown into my front garden (empty beer cans, cigarette butts, plastic bags, and other assorted items of rubbish) every single day.

And this is right next to the fabled Bellenden Road. After six months of staying here, all I can say is don't move to SE15 if you can help it. SE22, where I used to live, is far far far better.

[Girl82]

Is this really true?! I have just moved to SE15 (just off Bellenden Road) and your post has really worried me! It would be good to hear from some local residents with a positive experience of the area...

sidmeister Wrote:

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> I know this thread is long dormant, but I thought

> I'd add my two penn'orth here. I moved over from

> SE22 six months ago, and in the time I've been in

> this hellhole called "up and coming" Peckham Rye,

> I've had my motorbike vandalised twice and knocked

> down once (the repair bills are now running close

> to what the bike cost to buy), dodgy geezers

> hanging out outside my house every day, my car

> scratched up, and rubbish thrown into my front

> garden (empty beer cans, cigarette butts, plastic

> bags, and other assorted items of rubbish) every

> single day.

>

> And this is right next to the fabled Bellenden

> Road. After six months of staying here, all I can

> say is don't move to SE15 if you can help it.

> SE22, where I used to live, is far far far better.

[PeckhamRose]

Lived here 30 years this year. Just keeps getting better and better. Mate of mine in Chelsea SW10 thinking of joining me. Depends where abouts you are and which area and where the bad guys live. Bad guys also live in posh areas too y'know. And even if they don't live there they know you have more to steal so they'll come visit.

[jimmyraj]

sidmeister Wrote:

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> I know this thread is long dormant, but I thought

> I'd add my two penn'orth here. I moved over from

> SE22 six months ago, and in the time I've been in

> this hellhole called "up and coming" Peckham Rye,

> I've had my motorbike vandalised twice and knocked

> down once (the repair bills are now running close

> to what the bike cost to buy), dodgy geezers

> hanging out outside my house every day, my car

> scratched up, and rubbish thrown into my front

> garden (empty beer cans, cigarette butts, plastic

> bags, and other assorted items of rubbish) every

> single day.

>

> And this is right next to the fabled Bellenden

> Road. After six months of staying here, all I can

> say is don't move to SE15 if you can help it.

> SE22, where I used to live, is far far far better.

Sorry to hear of this, but this doesn't ring true of my experience. Where are you based?

I live just off Bellenden, and have done for four years now. Great place - much less crime than other places I have lived in London such as Stockwell and Brixton. That said, it is inner London so kinda pointless expecting it to be some sort of crime free utopia. There has been some recent incidences with motorbikes, tending to be nearer the Goose Green end, near Adys, Nutbrook St, but not aware of these being an endemic issue. A really good vibe around SE15 at the moment in many different ways. Busy on sunny evenings and actually not as quiet as it was a couple of years ago but the footfall is bringing trade to the area and helping businesses in the area flourish.

[UncleBen]

Crime ridden area despite the new influx of ED wannabes. Gangs, anti social behaviour, crime is all a second away. Don't wait around for the next riot . . . .

[jimmyraj]

^^dick