Location, Location, Location - Thurs 5th Sept - East Dulwich

[red devil]

I'll provide the recreational drugs cupcakes...

[edhistory]

IngridB knows some artists.

[KidKruger]

Ok some big dude mates can work the door.

Right then. We just need a date.

Oh. We must invite MM too.

[buddug]

Rahrahrah wrote: 'So they?re looking for property in ED. What?s the betting that Kirsty and Phil have them looking at properties in Nunhead, Sydenham and Norwood, before finally finding out that they ended up in Beckenham one year later.'

...or Penge.

[OD]

Lol!! Marmora road residents are awesome!!

[NewWave]

Apparently they did film in Forest Hill for that episode, which....dare I say it is nicer than Sydenham!

[Marmora Man]

Ejb123 Wrote:

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> Me too please Marmora man!

>

> May i suggest a leaving party??

[owlwise]

Newwave, there's nothing wrong with Sydenham, you snob!

[tomskip]

Which are the best roads in Sydenham and where do boys age 11+ go to school (state)? Apart from Forest Hill Boys.

[annabel42]

Lawrie Park Road in Upper Sydenham is a very nice road, and is also close to everything. Is also on several bus routes.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Anyone watching?

[Louisa]

I'm watching. Jesus Christ. Anyone got a towel to wipe the damp patches away from behind those foolish young ears? How can anyone seriously look at a below average property you have to pay a ridiculous price for in an average area. Oh well, takes all sorts of people to keep the world spinning.

Louisa.

[PeckhamRose]

Awwww bless 'em! Reminds me as always how incredibly lucky I am to live where I am with no mortgage now. Very lucky.

[Earl Aelfheah]

Noooo, don't go to Forest Hill.

[Louisa]

Loving how Kirsty describes East Dulwich as 'cheaper' than Forest Hill. Haha.

Louisa.

[LondonMix]

Where exactly do you suggest they live for one of these above average London properties for "reasonable prices" in an average area? They are hardly naive just because London is expensive...

Louisa Wrote:

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> I'm watching. Jesus Christ. Anyone got a towel to

> wipe the damp patches away from behind those

> foolish young ears? How can anyone seriously look

> at a below average property you have to pay a

> ridiculous price for in an average area. Oh well,

> takes all sorts of people to keep the world

> spinning.

>

> Louisa.

[Louisa]

LondonMix Wrote:

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> Where exactly do you suggest they live for one of

> these above average London properties for

> "reasonable prices" in an average area? They are

> hardly naive just because London is expensive...

>

>

I suggest they stay in the suburbs and commute in, which is what they're doing anyway. Rather than jumping the Home Counties trendy bandwagon into zone 2/3 and super inflating inner London prices and forcing existing locals with family roots to be priced out of buying where they grew up! Just saying.

Louisa.

[PeckhamRose]

local builder Mark turns up on time to appear on telly! Who'd he let down. No builders turn up on time!

[LondonMix]

That makes no sense, but you already know that. You say they are naive to buy where they want to live because other people want to live there too (who you deem more deserving)?

[Louisa]

LondonMix Wrote:

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> That makes no sense, but you already know that.

> You say they are naive to buy where they want to

> live because other people want to live there too

> (who you deem more deserving)?

What I'm saying is you don't have to live somewhere just because you like it, especially if it means paying through the nose for it and forcing existing locals out of the market. Example - I love Mayfair, it is amazing. Brilliant place to visit and maybe even work in (just a guess no experience). I know I can't afford to live there, unless I want to invest in a dustbin minus the lid, which I'm not keen on doing. Therefore, I visit the area, but know it would be ridiculous to consider buying there on my budget. The same applies to the Home Counties trendies, they love the edgy vibe of inner London and possibly want to work and socialise there. Well, why not stay in the Home Counties, do all that stuff you love to do in London, and buy a cheaper property which is larger in the area you grew up. It stops this hyper inflation property bubble in London and means that people who grew up around here have half a chance at being able to buy in the area where they have their roots.

Louisa.

[LondonMix]

The Mayfair example doesn't match up because these buyers can afford to move some place they like better than where they are now. People using their money to live where they like isn't surprising or unreasonable (or even a new phenomena as its been happening for centuries). What you suggest is being tied to the area you were born in like in feudal times.

[Louisa]

That's subjective LondonMix. I personally wouldn't describe the particular locations as any better than where they came from. The reasons for these people moving are of course varied, but overwhelmingly they want to live near where they work or WANT to work. And they want to live near a trendy inner city vibe. You can't force people not to buy somewhere else, but people moving en mass into areas has caused and continues to cause friction. Whole villages in Cornwall are left abandoned out of the year by second home invaders who destroy local communities. The post war migration (much of it forced) OUT of bombed slums of inner-London to new towns in Essex, Hertfordshire et al caused friction and cultural disenfranchisement with the newly inhabited communities. Much the same is now happening in zone 2/3 London. Local people are simply unable to buy because prices are rising ridiculously above the national average and cash rich buyers are swomping the market from outside. You only need to look at 'Prime London' where whole blocks of flats and houses are bought by foreign investors and left empty for years.

Louisa.

[LondonMix]

I didn't say better, I said a place they "like better" which is self-evident and could be for any reason.

Its sad, for whatever reason, when people can't live where they would like to (because its been destroyed by bombs or because its become too expensive). Its also sad when a once thriving area dies because its population abandons it for better opportunities. Its also unfortunate when people are hostile to "new people" moving into an area.

Movement and change are part of life and there is good and bad that goes along with that. Saying these kids should stay where they come from or saying they are naive is just silly though.

[elloriac]

Whether or not you think prices in East Dulwich/Forest Hill are too high, if you watched the programme, they wanted to move as they were spending 4 hours/day commuting and had no time for socialising with their friends or spending any time together as a couple. Staying where they were didn't seem to be an option.

[Marmora Man]

And my roof terrace with Kirsty ended up on the cutting room floor. Damn! Never mind - we sold the house anyway and are now Cornish!