steveo Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Er... I posed it Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727441 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 The proposition is whether the police are institutionally racist.You posted about people of middle eastern appearance, no police. I seem to remember SteveT was banned more than once for kneejerk racist responses to, well, anything really.Coincidence then. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727447 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 As I thought, you're not up to it Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727454 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 You also thought people would rather be in a queue of middle eastern people who've been frisked rather than a queue who hadn't, so I'm not really bothered, to be honest. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727455 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 Frisked > not frisked.Regardless if where the people come from. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727457 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeremy Posted March 7, 2014 Share Posted March 7, 2014 What KK said.Pretty damn sure that steveo's not a racist or any anything ist, I just think it's not a very good example. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727465 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 In the '70s in the East End of London if you were a young white male with long hair and carried a guitar or was with someone who fits the description- you were guaranteed to be stopped and searched (my guitar was actually confiscated for a few days as well) by the police any time of the day or night on a regular basis. Also, the local cafes were regularly raided and everyone had to turn out their pockets on the tables (some of the contents-yuk). Crime prevention at its finest. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727587 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 In a strange way it also sounds like a more innocent world to me. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727597 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 steveo Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> There two lines for two flights at the airport;> one flight contains people of a middle eastern> appearance who have been frisked, one contains> people of a middle eastern appearance that> haven't.> > Which one do you make your kids stand in?I think he's trying to say you'd be safer in the queue who'd been frisked, because all middle eatsern looking dudes are potential terrorists.Offensive and lame. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727679 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Exactly.Now for the Homewrecker thread. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727684 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 He wasn't trying to say that at all, but hey, suggesting other people are racist helps show how anti racist you are, so lap it up. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727695 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkdrive Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 . Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Poste's Child Posted March 8, 2014 Share Posted March 8, 2014 Stupid thing to say in my opinion.I found the post rather offensive because it's based on an assumption that 'most people' think terrorists have a middle eastern appearance, which obviously is a generalisation. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727703 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I think you should stick to the five letter word game thingy Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727777 Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveo Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Lady Delilah, if it makes you feel good... Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727778 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamityKel Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Robert Poste's Child Wrote:-------------------------------------------------------> Stupid thing to say in my opinion.> > I found the post rather offensive because it's> based on an assumption that 'most people' think> terrorists have a middle eastern appearance, which> obviously is a generalisation.I think youve missed the point of this thread... if there really is one of course Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727779 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KidKruger Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 It never ceases to amaze me how frequently some posters on EDF throw the 'racist' slur.A real cheap insult, which is as far as I can tell usually unsubstantiated and the result of a lazy conclusion.Well done.Again. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727789 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otta Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Well said KK! Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 Ok, so what did you actually mean then Steveo? I clearly missed some clever nuance. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-727920 Share on other sites More sharing options...
malumbu Posted March 17, 2014 Author Share Posted March 17, 2014 Exercising my right to reply.(a)as with many threads on this site, a few good postings, and then off on a tangent and facetious comments that don't add any value to debate.(b) started this post following the recent Stephen Lawrence stuff, ie that the police infiltrated his family.© Those of you with half a memory will recall that the '98 Macpherson Report into the Lawrence murder concluded that the Met were institutionally racist(d) 20 years ago the police stopped me assuming that I was a black man. 20 years later I feel that I am more likely to be stopped if I was a young man of any ethnicity (dressed the way that I was in 1992). Whether that is the way that fashion has gone, or a change in culture, not sure.(e) Interesting that rightly we are more sensitive about the equal and fair treatment of minorities which (for sake of argment) are from the 'colonies', yet for some it seems to be fair game to mock etc romanies, Eastern Europeans and some other sectors of society (go and watch a Gillingham game and the opposition fans will have a whole range of songs about pikeys)(f) most of us in metropolitan environments don't have racist views, but I am sure that it is still there as soon as we move out of town. Not as bad, but still there. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-730606 Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncleglen Posted March 18, 2014 Share Posted March 18, 2014 I see Lenny Henry is getting on the racism band wagon now. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-731009 Share on other sites More sharing options...
LadyDeliah Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 If by getting on the racism bandwagon you mean his speech to BAFTA on diversity, he has been pushing for more reflective diversity in television for a long time. Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-731039 Share on other sites More sharing options...
KalamityKel Posted March 19, 2014 Share Posted March 19, 2014 Malumbu I still fail to see the purpose of this thread except perhaps to stir "racist" b'lox.. which is worse? Link to comment https://www.eastdulwichforum.co.uk/topic/41964-police-institutionall-racist/page/2/#findComment-731045 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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