Police institutionall racist?

[steveo]

Er... I posed it

[Robert Poste's Child]

The proposition is whether the police are institutionally racist.

You posted about people of middle eastern appearance, no police.

I seem to remember SteveT was banned more than once for kneejerk racist responses to, well, anything really.

Coincidence then.

[steveo]

As I thought, you're not up to it

[Robert Poste's Child]

You also thought people would rather be in a queue of middle eastern people who've been frisked rather than a queue who hadn't, so I'm not really bothered, to be honest.

[KidKruger]

Frisked > not frisked.

Regardless if where the people come from.

[Jeremy]

What KK said.

Pretty damn sure that steveo's not a racist or any anything ist, I just think it's not a very good example.

[uncleglen]

In the '70s in the East End of London if you were a young white male with long hair and carried a guitar or was with someone who fits the description- you were guaranteed to be stopped and searched (my guitar was actually confiscated for a few days as well) by the police any time of the day or night on a regular basis. Also, the local cafes were regularly raided and everyone had to turn out their pockets on the tables (some of the contents-yuk). Crime prevention at its finest.

[Robert Poste's Child]

In a strange way it also sounds like a more innocent world to me.

[LadyDeliah]

steveo Wrote:

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> There two lines for two flights at the airport;

> one flight contains people of a middle eastern

> appearance who have been frisked, one contains

> people of a middle eastern appearance that

> haven't.

>

> Which one do you make your kids stand in?

I think he's trying to say you'd be safer in the queue who'd been frisked, because all middle eatsern looking dudes are potential terrorists.

Offensive and lame.

[Robert Poste's Child]

Exactly.

Now for the Homewrecker thread.

[Otta]

He wasn't trying to say that at all, but hey, suggesting other people are racist helps show how anti racist you are, so lap it up.

[Parkdrive]

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[Robert Poste's Child]

Stupid thing to say in my opinion.

I found the post rather offensive because it's based on an assumption that 'most people' think terrorists have a middle eastern appearance, which obviously is a generalisation.

[steveo]

I think you should stick to the five letter word game thingy

[steveo]

Lady Delilah, if it makes you feel good...

[KalamityKel]

Robert Poste's Child Wrote:

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> Stupid thing to say in my opinion.

>

> I found the post rather offensive because it's

> based on an assumption that 'most people' think

> terrorists have a middle eastern appearance, which

> obviously is a generalisation.

I think youve missed the point of this thread...

if there really is one of course

[KidKruger]

It never ceases to amaze me how frequently some posters on EDF throw the 'racist' slur.

A real cheap insult, which is as far as I can tell usually unsubstantiated and the result of a lazy conclusion.

Well done.

Again.

[Otta]

Well said KK!

[LadyDeliah]

Ok, so what did you actually mean then Steveo? I clearly missed some clever nuance.

[malumbu]

Exercising my right to reply.

(a)as with many threads on this site, a few good postings, and then off on a tangent and facetious comments that don't add any value to debate.

(b) started this post following the recent Stephen Lawrence stuff, ie that the police infiltrated his family.

© Those of you with half a memory will recall that the '98 Macpherson Report into the Lawrence murder concluded that the Met were institutionally racist

(d) 20 years ago the police stopped me assuming that I was a black man. 20 years later I feel that I am more likely to be stopped if I was a young man of any ethnicity (dressed the way that I was in 1992). Whether that is the way that fashion has gone, or a change in culture, not sure.

(e) Interesting that rightly we are more sensitive about the equal and fair treatment of minorities which (for sake of argment) are from the 'colonies', yet for some it seems to be fair game to mock etc romanies, Eastern Europeans and some other sectors of society (go and watch a Gillingham game and the opposition fans will have a whole range of songs about pikeys)

(f) most of us in metropolitan environments don't have racist views, but I am sure that it is still there as soon as we move out of town. Not as bad, but still there.

[uncleglen]

I see Lenny Henry is getting on the racism band wagon now.

[LadyDeliah]

If by getting on the racism bandwagon you mean his speech to BAFTA on diversity, he has been pushing for more reflective diversity in television for a long time.

[KalamityKel]

Malumbu I still fail to see the purpose of this thread except perhaps to stir "racist" b'lox.. which is worse?