Grammar, punctuation and syntax irritations

[Moos]

Oh I see.

It was a strong way of putting it, but I do think it's a huge set back, and I thought disadvantage wasn't enough. Or are you saying that one should not say 'disabled' at all? It's not considered acceptable to refer to people as 'disabled', is the word itself also tabu?

[SeanMacGabhann]

I think on the previous page I had made the same case as you - I think I used the term "will give you an advantage over everyone else after the same thing" for those who can write and speak proper-like

I don't really mind either disadvantaged or disabled - I wouldn't call either taboo. Similarly with childfree and childless - but I can see how they mean slightly different things

Phew - to recap - I wasn't actually picking you up on anything - just referencing a similar thread from yesterday - or so I thought! Right - I'm off now...

[mockney piers]

I can accept dyslexia as a disablity, but a poor education has to be a disadvantage I'm afraid.

Objection sustained.

[Moos]

Thank you, Judge Mockney, and when will the hanging of metaphor take place?

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Pint? Pint?

Pint of what?

Who/When/Where/How/Why?

[mockney piers]

I think the stocks will suffice ;)

mmmmmm stock

[Moos]

Pint.

You. When you show up to a Forum drink. Wherever it is. By the exchange of monies for goods.

Why? Finally a good question. To show friendliness in spite of grammatical and syntactical arsery.

[Moos]

Don't bring bananas, whatever you do.

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Moos Wrote:

Don't bring bananas, whatever you do.

Only if we go down "The Strand"....for our older clientele:))

Moos-YOU are far too young to understand the reference.>:D<

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Moos Wrote:

Pint. You. When you show up to a Forum drink. Wherever it is. By the exchange of monies for goods.

> Why? Finally a good question. To show friendliness in spite of grammatical and syntactical arsery.

Love to,however,disingenously these always seem to be arranged on the first evening that I have to work every week. i.e.Friday.(6)

I wouldn't mind but I only have to attend my current work on Friday and most of Saturday.:'(

[Moos]

Tumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty tum - 'ave a banana.

Young but well educated, Stevo.

[Ted Max]

Tumpty tumpty tumpty tumpty tum - 'ave a banana.

cf Bill Bailey's classic cockney intros. Makes me chuckle just thinking of it.

[ChavWivaLawDegree]

Mockney, who gets to decide what is a good education then?

[mockney piers]

Me.

Judge jury and person who puts stuff in the stocks.

[mockney piers]

Seriously for aq moment, that's not an easy one to quantify.

My (comprehensive) education was excellent but I know my old school has gone to pot, partly through half the schools in the town being closed down while the remaining schools both doubled in size, partly because, in order to fund said 'cost saving' strategy, experienced teachers were given involuntary redundancy and school leavers were hired to fill the vacancies.

Short sighted strategy that will take decades to fully recover from.

How can you measure an education? Ask labour and they'll chuck a bunch of league tables, exam results and so forth at it, but what was so good about my school was that so much of what we were taught had nothing to do with the curriculum, but encouraging the kids to think for themselves (plus it was pre national curriculum so veering away from the text book was not an issue).

In short, impossible to answer, but the best placed to answer is the educatee I guess, judging the quality of the teaching and their own participation in retrospect.

How do you feel about yours?

[Michael Palaeologus]

See how the Spaniard shames us.

Aye Chihuahua!!

[Tony.London Suburbs]

Michael Palaeologus Wrote:

See how the Spaniard shames us. Aye Chihuahua!!

Thats in MeHico!:))

[Peckhamgatecrasher]

"Judge jury and person who puts stuff in the stocks"

I object to the lovely Moos being referred to as 'stuff'.

[david_carnell]

Bit of stuff?

[Moos]

OI! Carnell! Just because I'm quiet for a little while doesn't mean you can get away with that kind of thing.

Thank you, PGC.

[ChavWivaLawDegree]

I loved school.

It was full of scallys and we had a laugh, but we did a lot of sports and some teachers taught us a lot. I had a great Maths teacher and Biology teacher, my Physics teacher was crap and my Chemistry was ok, but I loved learning so I did ok.

I wasn't given homework until I got to secondary school and we did fine.

In contrast, my youngest hated school by the age of 6, the others were in their teens by the time they hated school.

They didn't really get a lot of homework until league tables were in full force and my youngest was getting it at age 4.

I used to try to make her do it, until I remembered I hadn't had to do any at her age and I'd loved school.

I tried on and off to get her to do it, but after she lost about 4 homework books in a couple of months and I found homework shoved in the bin, I eased up!

Now she is 9 and loves school.

She does lots of after school activities and some homework, but I don't stress her out anymore.

She is smart, she will get where she wants to be in her own time so stuff the homework and the league tables. I think it's more important to learn how to be happy and learn the stuff that inspires you, instead of having shit you have no interest in, being shoved down your throat.

[Brendan]

What I want to know is who came up with the fuckwitted idea that academic assessment on an examinations basis in itself equals an education?

[mockney piers]

We're not going to enjoy all lessons, but it's still important to get something of a rounded education, so i think it's still important to go to lessons that don't interest you prior to GCSEs.

But agree that encouraging and inspiring (and a great teacher can do that even with an unpopular subject) is more important than stuffing stuff down throats.

I'm glad your kids are enjoying school, long may it continue.

ps I should briefly point out that I may have juxtaposed national curriculum and obsession with stats implying that the former was also labours fault. It was a Tory policy and I'm sorry if I unintentionally misled.

pps was going to make another stuff joke, but it would have been far too blue for the forum's sensibilities ;)

[Moos]

Good education =

- ability to communicate your thoughts, opinions and needs verbally and in writing

- ability to calculate and not to be afraid of numbers

- knowing how to find what you need to know, where to go and what to ask

- continued interest in learning new things

- enough qualifications to get you the job you want

Nice to haves

- ability to speak a language other than your own

- understanding the lessons and patterns of history

- understanding what the world is made of and the basics of natural laws

- interest in playing a sport

- ability to sing or play an instrument

That's what comes to mind, would anyone care to refine?

[Moos]

My goodness, Mockers, what were you going to say?